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farsonic
farsonic
12/5/2012 | 5:12:15 PM
re: How Q-ute! Juniper's QFabric Rethinks the Data Center


No idea about other announcements....but I doubt it. Cisco have their convoluted fabric path solution a if they change directions how is that going to look?


Brocade just announced their solution and it is nothing near qfabric scale from what I can tell. I don't believe HP would have anything up their sleeve due to acquisition happenings. Running out of ideas to competitors of any real size.


Basically anything running TRILL will still be a collection of descrete devices with forwarding on a per-hop basis. Any control plane is going to be trying to make these devices look and acti like one is just an overlay hiding the mess.... and if you mix and match vendors it is going to be a nightmare. (Once TRILL actually becomes a standard that is)


Game on..this is going to be interesting to watch :)

DCITDave
DCITDave
12/5/2012 | 5:12:15 PM
re: How Q-ute! Juniper's QFabric Rethinks the Data Center


I wasn't thinking conspiracy, just curious about market timing. Does a competitor have something similar coming soon that Juniper was trying to beat out the door?


Oh,&nbsp;and if they do, a tip, please?


http://www.lightreading.com/assignment-light-reading.asp

Bob Saccamano
Bob Saccamano
12/5/2012 | 5:12:14 PM
re: How Q-ute! Juniper's QFabric Rethinks the Data Center


Thank you. &nbsp;The videotape of the Q&amp;A session will determine whether that was what was represented. &nbsp;I thought Pradeep Sindhu answered pretty directly that it is custom silicon that Juniper has spent years developing (not sure who the guy was that asked that question). &nbsp;That certainly does not jibe with the scuttlebutt.

Pete Baldwin
Pete Baldwin
12/5/2012 | 5:12:14 PM
re: How Q-ute! Juniper's QFabric Rethinks the Data Center


willygeorge -- the QFX has FC interfaces, but the grander QFabric isn't yet ready to address Fibre Channel scaling the way it addresses Ethernet scaling.


At least, that was my interpretation of what Juniper was saying. Could be wrong. It sounded to me like FC scaling was part of QFabric's todo list, alongside things like 40G/100G.

Pete Baldwin
Pete Baldwin
12/5/2012 | 5:12:12 PM
re: How Q-ute! Juniper's QFabric Rethinks the Data Center


I'm with farsonic - wasn't surprised by the timing at all, especially considering this is about the time Juniper said it would announce Stratus.


But if you do want to get all conspiracy-theory about it ...


Consider: Cisco just came off a quarter where it appears the company's switching franchise is under successful attack. Juniper has, in addition to a working super-ToR switch, a major architectural announcement that strikes at the deepest roots of the data center and presents a big-picture assault on that Cisco franchise. Why not hurry up the announcement a little, to strike while Cisco is down?


I do NOT think that's how it happened. But it's fun to think about.


The real reason Juniper is announcing this without all the details, IMHO, is because they want the concept itself to make a big splash, without being overrun by speeds-and-feeds reporting.


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BigBro
BigBro
12/5/2012 | 5:12:11 PM
re: How Q-ute! Juniper's QFabric Rethinks the Data Center


In addition to Craig's note (strike at Cisco while they're weak/vulnerable; announce the vision before getting into speeds-and-feeds), there might also be the fact that&nbsp;a number of 48+ port ToR 10G switches have been announced in the last couple of months (IBM/BNT's 8264, Force10's 4810, Brocade's VDX 6720), and there must be others brewing...

Light-bulb
Light-bulb
12/5/2012 | 5:12:11 PM
re: How Q-ute! Juniper's QFabric Rethinks the Data Center


I believe that 3500 is powered by either Broadcom or Fulcrum. &nbsp;I'm leaning towards the Broadcom SoC, but would love to see confirmation of this.


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After all this talk about it coming for more than 2 years, I'm shocked at how underwhelmed I am. &nbsp;I was hoping it would be much more mature than this. &nbsp;


Guess I was hoping to have a real potential challenger but appears they are a couple years out, IF they stay in the game.

quicktime
quicktime
12/5/2012 | 5:12:02 PM
re: How Q-ute! Juniper's QFabric Rethinks the Data Center


Mostly this is the truth ;)


Game changing&nbsp; in&nbsp; silicon isn't easy today.


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Broadcom/Fulcrumhas 64 10G port switch, which could be split into


48 customer facing 10G ports +&nbsp; 4 X 40G aggregate ports


http://ja.broadcom.com/product...


http://www.fulcrummicro.com/al...

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