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metroman 12/5/2012 | 3:44:03 PM
re: Heavy Reading Homes In on Huawei Chechaco

Not sure of where you are getting you info - Newswire March 29th 2007:

3Com Corporation (NASDAQ: COMS) today reported that its acquisition of Huawei Technologies' 49 percent stake in H3C for $882 million officially closed and 3Com now owns 100 percent of the China-based company. To fund the transaction and related fees and expenses, 3Com used approximately $470 million of cash from its balance sheet and approximately $430 million from a senior secured bank loan at its H3C segment.

"With 100 percent ownership of H3C, 3Com significantly improves its long term growth profile and expands its global technology leadership position," said Edgar Masri, 3Com President and Chief Executive Officer.

Prior to the transaction 3Com owned 51%. The deal was announced November 27th 2006 and completed in March '07.

materialgirl 12/5/2012 | 3:44:03 PM
re: Heavy Reading Homes In on Huawei To determine what equipment service providers need, either cutting edge or cheap but old, perhaps you need to think about their own business models. If you have a monopoly and continue to get monopoly rents by promising your regulators perfect service, price becomes no object and you get the cutting edge gear.

If, however, you have just been commoditized to airline status, how much do you want to pay for fuel? Since we really have no working business model for the telecom industry that extends any extent into the future, this all becomes conjecture.

Since they don't know what they will be when they grow into an all-IP future, perhaps it is smartest to buy the cheapest stuff out there, as long as it works.
dsb 12/5/2012 | 3:44:03 PM
re: Heavy Reading Homes In on Huawei Yup. That's why the growth in telecom employment is in china, not the US or europe.
light_surfer 12/5/2012 | 3:44:01 PM
re: Heavy Reading Homes In on Huawei I love the folks on this board who reflexively step up to defend the flagship networking company of China Inc. I mean, "Telecomidol," could you possibly be more transparently obvious than you are? Stop spamming this board and go yak somewhere where free speech won't offend you.

Like Lhasa, for example. Oh, wait a minute...

Hey Stefan, why are you so dead set on defending this company? Others have stepped up with actual evidence, and all you can do is whine that there's "no tangible evidence." You happen to work for HW by any chance? There's a term that the Soviets used to use to describe people from the West who supported them in the face of all the evidence of tyranny and butchery: "useful idiots."

China is a single-party dictatorship that does not accept the rule of law and that ruthlessly crushes dissent. Stefan, my guess is you'll be right in front cheering the Olymic torch as it goes by.

Just remember that the Olympic torch was created by Nazi Germany for the 1936 Games. The symbolism hasn't changed much since then, it appears.

There's a reason Huawei is "privately held." It doesn't have to disclose anything. But there is plenty of information out there about them. Worse luck for them and their misguided defenders. Congress did the right thing in squelching the 3Com deal.
TelecomIdol 12/5/2012 | 3:43:58 PM
re: Heavy Reading Homes In on Huawei As far as I know, a lot of india employees in Huawei have huawei's shares. One of my friends is one of them.
Talking about Lhasa, there is a website which can tell you more facts than I do. http://www.anti-cnn.com/
All these facts tell you the so-called "transparency" you are trying to propagandize.
Comparing some country to Nazi Germany is a shame of your own intellgence. The Olympic torch belongs to IOC. no other one can create the Olympic torch.
Almost all the analysts know blocking the 3com deal is to kill 3com gradually.
This is my last comment about this issue.
light_surfer 12/5/2012 | 3:43:57 PM
re: Heavy Reading Homes In on Huawei The Olympic torch was created for the 1936 Olympic Games. This is objective fact. (And, by the way, I think the Olympics are corrupt and venal to their core, and to that extent they're a perfect fit for the Communist Chinese regime.)

China continues to occupy Tibet and to suppress dissent and Tibetan culture through the barrel of a gun. This is also an objective fact.

"As far as I know" doesn't cut it. I still think it's funny how you and others can defend a stupid corporation. Talk about brand identification! Talk about desperately needing a life.
alandal 12/5/2012 | 3:43:54 PM
re: Heavy Reading Homes In on Huawei Not quite! Most "non-china based companies" are moving to China or even "lower-cost" manufacturing locations , but they ARE not China Based! Their significant portion of costs is much higher than HW's. Since there is little margin left (squeezed by carriers), it makes major difference that may make and break a few companies.

Stefan Sip 12/5/2012 | 3:43:53 PM
re: Heavy Reading Homes In on Huawei Fred. Jackson Turner coined the phrase Manifest Destiny to describe the US in the 1800s. Part of the American identity comes from the fact that we can move away from "whatever" if we are willing to endure challenges and be rewarded by our hard work. A byproduct of Manifest Destiny is the US policy against Native Americans. Although it is an ugly reality, Native Americans have not been repaid for being conquered. This is the harsh reality of one people rapidly growing at the expense of another who happens to occupy the same space and time.

Tibet is no different. The Han Chinese is growing rapidly. If there are opportunities to prosper in Tibet, people will go there, which could displace the local Tibetans.

If you have a solution that solves the Native Americans and Tibetan problem, the Nobel Peace Committee would love to hear from you.
Stefan Sip 12/5/2012 | 3:43:52 PM
re: Heavy Reading Homes In on Huawei Lite Surf, perhaps I do need a life.

On the subject of defending a company, let's face it, the only globally recognizable Chinese brands are: Lenovo, Haier, Huawei, ZTE, Tsingtao Beer, etc.

Lenovo = IBM PC division
Tsingtao = German setup in the 1900s
That leaves Haier, Huawei, and ZTE. Since Huawei seems to be the most successful, it is the target of attention. If Huawei made candy, there would be detractors. I see it as the same old FUD an incumbent plays to stay on top of new competition.
bollocks187 12/5/2012 | 3:43:29 PM
re: Heavy Reading Homes In on Huawei This is perculiar company.

The engineers do not like working in the West. Huawei provides hosuign i tnhe west and puts 4 guys in the same living quarters to lower cost.

As a company they are totall "anti-western", besides bringing cheap products to the market they provide little if any innovation to the industry.

They are a faceless company that nobody except if your chinese in china is proud to be a part of and they pay badly - rofl.
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