GIG-BE Winners Named

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lilgatsby 12/4/2012 | 11:24:51 PM

re: GIG-BE Winners Named Dave77777,
Did you seriously just call cien stupid for winning a $50m plus estimated transport contract that corv was also competing for and lost? If you think corv lost on price alone you are far more foolish and delusional than I give you credit for, sport.
So using your logic, that would make corv what? They were competing for the optical cross connect and transport contracts and won nothing...is it better to win nothing? Given the corv sales record, I suppose losing is pretty much commonplace and therefore acceptable. This the message you're dancing around, champ?

True,
lg

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Scott Raynovich 12/4/2012 | 11:24:50 PM

re: GIG-BE Winners Named Is it really that interesting? Actually, it's completely boring, and that's why the thread was removed.

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Sparxe 12/4/2012 | 11:24:49 PM

re: GIG-BE Winners Named
You say its so..
DISA says it aint...

One of you are wrong...

Sparxe Nj

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crackbaby 12/4/2012 | 11:24:49 PM

re: GIG-BE Winners Named Amazing what LR calls boring. A few CORV cheerleaders get called on the carpet for shilling stock in a company that is a complete mutt. Besides the humor factor, the
posts point out some real issues, namely, the pump and dump stock hyping that our industry has yet to recover from. It is okay to run the "Grubby Of The Week" and also subject us to the mindless drivel put forth by Lightreading's very own BobbyMax (ever wonder why he still gets posting privileges? or even better, why his language syntax changes so often?) but posters cannot tale each other to task?

Spare me.....

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fulgurator 12/4/2012 | 11:24:49 PM

re: GIG-BE Winners Named >>>
Is it really that interesting? Actually, it's completely boring, and that's why the thread was removed
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I don't think even Johnny Cochran (sp?) could defend that lame excuse

So, Msr. Raynovich, Is it really within the bounds of journalistic integrity to edit message threads that don't meet your standards of content (excepting messages for instance that are unnecessarily offensive)? I ask this as serious question. I don't read through these that frequently, and I would like to know if they reflect the opinions of your readers, or are merely selected testemonials.

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dwdm2 12/4/2012 | 11:24:48 PM

re: GIG-BE Winners Named "Scott,

Your justification is completely unacceptable."

Well, actually it is this kind of response that generates lot of posting...

Just my 2 cents

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Sparxe 12/4/2012 | 11:24:48 PM

re: GIG-BE Winners Named
LR was not a party to any NDA. So they can say what they please.
LR if I am correct would only be oblidged to print a correction.
For a free press to be free they must be allowed to make mistakes.

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Sparxe 12/4/2012 | 11:24:48 PM

re: GIG-BE Winners Named
I took a sabatical from this board because the bashers came on faster then I could handle them. 70% of their bull was 100% lies. Nothing was ever said. Nobody got bored hearing the same lie after lie.

My question to you Scott is: that its common knowledege that there is no love lost between Corvis and LR; So why is that?

Sparxe Nj

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romeo-foxtrot 12/4/2012 | 11:24:48 PM

re: GIG-BE Winners Named Scott,

Your justification is completely unacceptable.

Firstly, you imply that every thread is vetted by LR and kept if "not boring". I have read many threads that were way more boring than that one.

Second, shouldn't your readers decide what is boring. I've noticed the "boring" threads quickly die away. Because they are....boring, readers don't post to them. The thread that LR obliterated from existance was getting lots of posts!

How many other threads do you obliterate? None. Why this one? And why completely remove every last trace of it from your site?

Your response is inadequate, but I am hopeful that you will be brave enough to reply back with a more acceptable explanation.

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whyiswhy 12/4/2012 | 11:24:47 PM

re: GIG-BE Winners Named Dave, clearly you were never a member of your school's debate team. You appear to have as much trouble understanding and parsing the elements of an arguement as you do articulating one, or understanding sales tactics for that matter.

Selling gear below cost is a perfectly valid technique, especially to get onboard a very large program which has the potential to extend over at least 20 years before the next open competitive bid is let. Opportunities to recover profit will certainly emerge over time. If all else fails, you have a face to face with the contracting officer and/or IG and negotiate it.

The metric of sales dollars (get in the door) divided by zero sales dollars (we won't sell below cost) makes it infinitely better than any arguement you can try to make.

Anyone experienced with sales, and particularly sales to the USG understands that.

Except Huber and you.

As far as lessons are concerned, sticking with Huber, you clearly have more in store. Given your rate of learning to date, he is going to be your "loving daddy" for a long time.

Quick, grab that soap! Doh!

-Why

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