re: Fat Cats Feast, Despite LayoffsCarmack - I abandoned constructive terminology when you began insisting that corporate america runs washington dc, that we are all killers of the innocent, etc.
I sadly need to stick to my assertion that a) not enough oxygen is getting to your brain or b) you are trying to get a rise out of everyone by heeping insult onto americans and how we live or c) you have deep, deep problems with, or hatred of, the United States. You are clearly entitled to suffer from one or all of the aforesaid coniditons.
The claims you make are far more profound and injurious than my harmless nicknames for you.
re: Fat Cats Feast, Despite LayoffsCarmack - I abandoned constructive terminology when you began insisting that corporate america runs washington dc, that we are all killers of the innocent, etc.
I never said either of these things. I clearly said that corporations have too much (IMO) influence when it's the people who are supposed to have influence. Everyone already has a vote as an individual. Why do some people need extra votes just because other people work for them? Sure they're not votes per se, but the lobbying money is as good as votes, and often better. I am entitled to the opinion above, and I should not be insulted simply because I have that opinion.
As for the second generalization you made, I did not say that "America kills the innocent". I said there is a chance that the innocent may get executed if you execute people. If you think that never ever happens, you are the one deluding yourself.
I sadly need to stick to my assertion that a) not enough oxygen is getting to your brain or b) you are trying to get a rise out of everyone by heeping insult onto americans and how we live or c) you have deep, deep problems with, or hatred of, the United States. You are clearly entitled to suffer from one or all of the aforesaid coniditons.
Bigotry will get you nowhere... Who's making the inflamatory personal attacks again?
The claims you make are far more profound and injurious than my harmless nicknames for you.
BS. Do you claim that just because I disagree with how much power lobbyists have, and that *maybe* I disagree with state-sponsored executions of criminals, I am a "mentally challenged"? I haven't said anything that many other people in your country don't say already, and have the *right* to say. I think it's clear that you are a kind of person who can't take somebody disagreeing with them on a "big issue". The points I made were just that, points in a debate, not insults.
Calling people names is not acceptable in a debate, once you learn that perhaps you will find people willing to continue conversations with you. See ya.
I have to agree with my fellow American. You spout out trite comments.
I have a Master in International Relations. I have lived overseas and speak two other languages fluently. I've been in International Business for the past seven years.
And I encounter people like you all the time.
You feel that since you've read a few books and visited the States, that you know us better than we know ourselves. You believe that we are ill-informed and uneducated, and that if only we knew what you knew we would not speak as we do. Look at all that lobbying. Isn't it terrible that in a capitalistic society the owners of the capital have so much say? Look at those executions. You're thinking, I'm so glad that I live in a civilized nation that believes in life time imprisonment. No chance we'll execute innocent people, we'll just lock them up the rest of their lives. I'm so superior to you, and I'm glad to mention this and many other salient points to my American friends whenever they come to visit me. I'm sure they enjoy my outside perspective, don't they?
God, you make me sick. You are full of sh#t. I'm so tired of you guys. Do you ever wonder why Canadiens wear their flag all the goddamn time when they visit Europe? So they don't have to hear that cr#p all the time from guys like you. Get a life.
We are a land fiercely protective of our individual liberties. We believe in secular not theocratic governing. We believe in the freedom of the press, the freedom of expression, and in the right to choose our leadership through democratic processes. We are fundamentally a good people.
We are not a land of corruption and inequity.
We are proud of our country. Why don't you shut the hell up. Geez.
re: Fat Cats Feast, Despite LayoffsMy coworkers and I have gotten big laughs from this Carmack character. We have to agree - his claims are those from someone who has no innate critical thought. And this is coming from an ASICs team of Pakistanis and Indians.
Carmack - if indeed you are a fellow foreigner, you are a laughing stock to all of us who have come to the United States so that we can do things like vote for our leaders for once, enjoy a just legal system, and live with a plurality of opinions. You no doubt can have your opinions however hilarious they are, but do not pretent to represent the (now near-majority!) immigrant population in the US.
re: Fat Cats Feast, Despite LayoffsOptitude, Nandaze et al. There is a tendency here that we end up with a sandbox-style, my-daddy-is-stronger-than-yours discussion and that may not be all that meaningful but allow me just a thought:
The former title of this discussion is somewhat misleading, neither Carmack nor myself invented it. Americans rightfully react to that title's blunt characterizations (inequity and corruption) of their country. This is probably neither the time nor the place for any criticism of this country, even though Carmack's points about the distribution of wealth and the judicial system in the US in my opinion seem well founded. An all-out satisfaction with the American way of life is fully understood and shared by many immigrants, particularly from the developing part of the world. However, those arriving from e.g. Canada, Australia and Europe may already have enjoyed the benefits Optitude listed, in their countries of origin. The "CAE"-immigrants, often well educated but opportunistic, are attracted by the higher pay-offs on their degress in the US. Still, they are not necessarily as content with the distribution of wealth, the related crime rates and the legal system (yeah I know, tell them to like it or leave).
Now, we all realize we can't both eat the cake and have it. Hence, the fact that most people from US, CAE and all other parts of the world for that matter, are all for their respective systems, doesn't prevent them from enjoying work outside their home country, learning from the experiences of others. America remains the land of opportunity, maybe partly because of the different perspectives immigrants bring to the table - not only Native Americans deserve credits for the greatness of our country.
I sadly need to stick to my assertion that a) not enough oxygen is getting to your brain or b) you are trying to get a rise out of everyone by heeping insult onto americans and how we live or c) you have deep, deep problems with, or hatred of, the United States. You are clearly entitled to suffer from one or all of the aforesaid coniditons.
The claims you make are far more profound and injurious than my harmless nicknames for you.