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skinbop 12/5/2012 | 3:08:08 AM
re: Ebbers Sentenced: See You in 2030 I think your headline is a bit sad - gloating over a 25 year prison sentence.

I am sure there are a lot worse dangers to society on the streets today...
darkone 12/5/2012 | 3:08:08 AM
re: Ebbers Sentenced: See You in 2030 Finally, a white collar criminal who gets what he deserves.
LightMan 12/5/2012 | 3:08:08 AM
re: Ebbers Sentenced: See You in 2030 I actually know Worldcom administrative assistants and such who earned very little and poured their entire 401k's into Worldcon because of the hype that was talked up by Ebbers & crew.

While I would never want to spend a day in jail, how can one say 25 years is excessive when numerous families who had little and tried to do a good thing by saving their pennies to put their children to college and have something in the future. To think of it another way grand theft carries a sentence of around 8 years. He certainly swindled 1000's of families out of much more than $5k each.

I always knew Ebbers built a house of cards, he reminds me of another "leader" and if his crime is unjust for his age he should have done it earlier in his life.

Guilty since day 1
Ben_Stern 12/5/2012 | 3:08:07 AM
re: Ebbers Sentenced: See You in 2030 I can't wait for former Enron chairman and CEO Kenneth Lay to get 100 years.

"I told you not to be stupid, you moron." - Ben Stern
Lite Rock 12/5/2012 | 3:08:07 AM
re: Ebbers Sentenced: See You in 2030 Skin,

You both are on the money.

Reducing BernieGÇÖs sentence because of his multi millions to charity would have been an injustice, just as you point out with other more heinous crimes receiving lighter sentences.

If equal justice is attainable, we have to start somewhere and it might as well be with Bernie.

Cheers,
skinbop 12/5/2012 | 3:08:07 AM
re: Ebbers Sentenced: See You in 2030 Your comments are fair.
I am only pointing out that there are greater dangers to society receiving lesser sentences if any.
lightreceding 12/5/2012 | 3:08:06 AM
re: Ebbers Sentenced: See You in 2030 And what or who might those dangers be? You mentioned "street" in your first post. I think you are exibiting a common misconception. Most Americans are so irrationally frightened of street crime that they pushed for most of our crime fighting resources to be focused on it.

White collar crime is a much bigger problem. White collar crime has wiped out the savings of tens of thousands of Americans. It is about time that one of these financial mega criminals got what he deserves.
optical 12/5/2012 | 3:08:05 AM
re: Ebbers Sentenced: See You in 2030 Bernie's sentence is just Act I. I want to see what Scott Sullivan gets because he's just as guilty!
MP_UK 12/5/2012 | 3:08:04 AM
re: Ebbers Sentenced: See You in 2030
I'd just like to add that IMHO, this is a good result. It certainly proves that US justice has got some teeth, and that no matter how much money someone can spend on a lawyer, guilty is guilty.

Maybe Bernie has been made an example of, but I'm still not feeling very sorry for him. Hopefully other would-be fraudulent executives are paying attention!
bored_lurker 12/5/2012 | 3:08:03 AM
re: Ebbers Sentenced: See You in 2030 skinbop said "I am sure there are a lot worse dangers to society on the streets today..."

Really? How many others on the street ruined the lives of 10s of thousand? How many stole billions?

Certainly there are people who commit horrific crimes. Selling drugs (the #1 reason for incarceration in the US) gets people high which can lead to ruining their life. The good folks at WC ruined the lives of thousands. A murder takes the life of one or perhaps a few. This stole the lives of many, perhaps not the breath of life but truly much of the joy of it. I hold certain truths to be inalienable, that among these are life liberty and the pursuit of happiness (property rights), Burnie and his gang took countless people's pursuit of happiness away.

Imagine a world filled with Bernies. Imagine every company out there was like WC and Enron, having people who didn't care who they hurt by embezzling $M or even $B. Now what does our economy and your life look like?

The parent is correct - FINALLY! If the government does not stop this behavior with strong penalties then we can just say good by to the way of life as we know it.
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