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Jeff Baumgartner
Jeff Baumgartner
12/5/2012 | 5:36:55 PM
re: Comcast Sizes Up All-IP Set-Top


Not sure if this client box will pull the cloud UI off the network directly.  Was told that it may obtain that data  off  of the primary gateway in the home via the home network... sounds like this remote UI concept has some things in common with the RVU technology companies like DirecTV and Verizon are endorsing but I believe the way Comcast will do it is a bit different from a technical point of view. I'll have to dig into that one a bit more.JB.

Flook
Flook
12/5/2012 | 5:37:07 PM
re: Comcast Sizes Up All-IP Set-Top


Now, wait a minute. OK, I'll admit I don't much about what the MSOs are up to when it comes to IPTV, but did I read somewhere (LR?) that those infernal STBs would soon become so yesterday?

Jeff Baumgartner
Jeff Baumgartner
12/5/2012 | 5:37:07 PM
re: Comcast Sizes Up All-IP Set-Top


Maybe some others disagree with this, but I don't think we'll ever see STBs go away completely anytime soon. But I do see the overall reliance on them getting reduced as those functions continue to get embedded in tablets and connected TVs. I think the last time it came up was when the latest Cisco-is-trying-to-sell-its-STB unit rumor floated about, but i think the motivation for that was stemming not just from less reliance on the boxes but because Samsung was hammering everyone on costs. JB  

Pete Baldwin
Pete Baldwin
12/5/2012 | 5:37:07 PM
re: Comcast Sizes Up All-IP Set-Top


> Now, wait a minute. OK, I'll admit I don't much about what the MSOs are up to when it comes to IPTV, but did I read somewhere (LR?) that those infernal STBs would soon become so yesterday?


Ha!! Good one -- 1000 points to Flook.

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Jeff Baumgartner
Jeff Baumgartner
12/5/2012 | 5:37:08 PM
re: Comcast Sizes Up All-IP Set-Top


Also, as I have more discussions on this, it appears more and more likely that this box will feed off a gateway, perhaps whatever follows the current version of the X1, so it's still hard to see how soon we can expect to see some sort of an IP video simulcast (guess i'll keep using that term until we can come up with something better).&nbsp; So the transcoding idea could have more weight versus that other option. JB

msilbey
msilbey
12/5/2012 | 5:37:08 PM
re: Comcast Sizes Up All-IP Set-Top


Well that does limit things somewhat. Interesting then that Comcast is pursuing both in-home transcoding and straight-up IP set-tops. Guess they have to cover all their bases given the increasingly hybrid landscape.&nbsp;

Jeff Baumgartner
Jeff Baumgartner
12/5/2012 | 5:37:08 PM
re: Comcast Sizes Up All-IP Set-Top


I take that back.&nbsp; Took a quick look back when they launched AnyPlay in Denver and Nashville, and we reported then there's no VoD supported yet on that streaming unit, transcactional or otherwise. I must've been thinking about something else, but now I can't put my finger on it ;)&nbsp; JB

AESerm
AESerm
12/5/2012 | 5:37:09 PM
re: Comcast Sizes Up All-IP Set-Top


The small die size of ARM chips is what gets them in the embedded architectures of those handheld devices. A smaller device should have a lower bill of materials, as well as less power consumption. I wonder if there's a tradeoff in processing power by going to ARM. If the cloud is handling navigation, that's one (big) less thing a set-top has to do.

msilbey
msilbey
12/5/2012 | 5:37:09 PM
re: Comcast Sizes Up All-IP Set-Top


Could users still stream free VoD with AnyPlay? If the issue is just paid on-demand content, Comcast (and users) might be willing to let that reside solely on a parent box in the house short-term. Hmmm...

Jeff Baumgartner
Jeff Baumgartner
12/5/2012 | 5:37:09 PM
re: Comcast Sizes Up All-IP Set-Top


Yeah, that possibility crossed my mind too but I wonder&nbsp;how the lack of transactional VoD on the AnyPlay (for now, anyway) would affect that sort of a set-up.&nbsp; Also I'd be curious to know if this&nbsp;IP client device would&nbsp;have WiFi in there to support AnyPlay. But that kind of setup would give the mpeg pipe more legs during the IP video transition, which will take a looong time considering how many millions of MPEG-only set-tops are out there. JB &nbsp;

msilbey
msilbey
12/5/2012 | 5:37:09 PM
re: Comcast Sizes Up All-IP Set-Top


Since Comcast is already using the Motorola Televation streamer thingy (aka AnyPlay), it could avoid doing a large amount of simulcast (or whatever you want to call it), and instead transcode to IP for access on connected devices like iPads in addition to cheaper all-IP set-tops. I wouldn't necessarily have bet on Comcast picking up a transcoding device like the Motorola streamer, but since it has, the introduction of all-IP set-tops makes a lot of sense. They're cheaper, greener, and can be easily networked with other IP devices.&nbsp;

Jeff Baumgartner
Jeff Baumgartner
12/5/2012 | 5:37:10 PM
re: Comcast Sizes Up All-IP Set-Top


I was reminded that IP video isn't broadcast so the term simulcast in this sense may not be the best description... and to think about this in terms of switched digital video "without all the muss and fuss."&nbsp; Make me recall that BigBand (now part of Arris, which happens to do alot of work with Comcast) did envision&nbsp;SDV as being a&nbsp;stepping stone to IP video. But the reminder brings a lot more questions to mind on *how* Comcast might accomplish this. JB

Jeff Baumgartner
Jeff Baumgartner
12/5/2012 | 5:37:11 PM
re: Comcast Sizes Up All-IP Set-Top


Comcast declined to comment on the X3, by the way.&nbsp; But a person with some knowledge of the project says this is potentially an&nbsp;ARM-based device, so it will likely be a less power-hungry set-top and fit into cable's new long-term view on how to reduce power consumption. And ARM,&nbsp; I'm told, may also give Comcast some help in the development area, since that kind of architecture is being used in cell phones, tablets, and streaming boxes like the Roku.&nbsp; Any other ARM implications that should be considered here? JB


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