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null0 12/5/2012 | 1:47:43 AM
re: Cisco's HFR Gets Mod "As impressive as its hardware might be -- 640 Gbit/s per rack"

You call that impressive?????

Is that cisco math or 64 x oc192 capable?

I hope its the latter because if its the former Cisco may as well shut up there core shop today.

And even if it is he latter, who on earth is going to pay big money for something that is the size of the old 7770, when there are far better and proven solutions available.

Unfortunately it looks like Cisco have got one thing right so far with the HFR and that is the H part...

Don't they know that size isn't anything in this game, it is nothing but an expensive pain in the ass....

Maybe the marketing guru that came up with the should of called it DFR cause thats whats going to sell over this baby...

I personally can't wait for the announcement... I'm due a good laugh;) Time tto stock up on someones shares and they ain't Cisco's...

Null0
null0 12/5/2012 | 1:47:42 AM
re: Cisco's HFR Gets Mod As someone said, it is really for the captive Cisco customers like Sprint, SBC etc.

Even so, these guys must be having nightmares. This requires more than a forklift upgrade i.e. move out your old GSR's and slot in a.n.other router, the HFR is 23" wide, so they're also going to be doing an infrastructure upgrade i.e. power/racks/re-inforced floors etc...

Ouch...
recession2002 12/5/2012 | 1:47:41 AM
re: Cisco's HFR Gets Mod From the public comments, HFR doesn't look promising for the initial launch. First, not footprint compatible, second, pricing pressure on GSR. And even worse, confuse the customer. If cisco can only sell a few HFR, then it is a bad ROI. By the way, I heard that GSR is improving a lot and STABLE. The next generation of cat6k(from Andiamo) will have performance close to HFR and lower price. Cisco is not a non-profit research company. Kill the DAMN HFR.
indianajones 12/5/2012 | 1:47:41 AM
re: Cisco's HFR Gets Mod Well, I am not sure if that is a big deal. Remember, these carriers are not your "monkey" ISPs who lease one 19'' rack from Colo.com.

Sprint and SBC have tons and tons of transport equipment which are all 23'', so getting a 23'' rack is going to be the least of their problems.

HFR stability on the other hand is going to be a big problem :-)
Belzebutt 12/5/2012 | 1:47:31 AM
re: Cisco's HFR Gets Mod It is 64 OC-192s in a 7 foot rack, so it is actually 1.28 Tb/s as per Cisco math.

So basically it's the same as the T640, except it's a 23" rack instead of 19". Cisco has heard of the T640 announcement 2 years ago, right?
Belzebutt 12/5/2012 | 1:47:27 AM
re: Cisco's HFR Gets Mod HFR = 64 OC-192s in a 7 ft rack
T640 = 32 OC-192s/chassis x 2 per rack = 64/rack
Juniper routers fit in a 19" rack though, so does Avici.
ntwkeng 12/5/2012 | 1:47:27 AM
re: Cisco's HFR Gets Mod Wouldn't that be twice the capacity of a T640?
Tony Li 12/5/2012 | 1:47:26 AM
re: Cisco's HFR Gets Mod HFR = 64 OC-192s in a 7 ft rack
T640 = 32 OC-192s/chassis x 2 per rack = 64/rack

8812 = 48 OC-192s/chassis x 2 per rack = 96/rack

Juniper routers fit in a 19" rack though, so does Avici and Procket.

Tony
pig3head 12/5/2012 | 1:47:25 AM
re: Cisco's HFR Gets Mod HFR = 64 OC-192s in a 7 ft rack
T640 = 32 OC-192s/chassis x 2 per rack = 64/rack
8812 = 48 OC-192s/chassis x 2 per rack = 96/rack

Juniper routers fit in a 19" rack though, so does Avici and Procket.
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Juniper, Avici and Procket ???

Do these 3 guys' 40G product work really outside the home nest?

is there anyone who use these guy's 40G( or
4 x 10 G ) line card and the guy's interconnecting version?

please tell me.

GSR128xx is the best one in real world.
fiber_r_us 12/5/2012 | 1:47:22 AM
re: Cisco's HFR Gets Mod Of course, neither SBC nor Sprint have backbones or nodes large enough to require anything of this size... especially SBC which has only a single OC-192 pipe in some of their largest sites...

So, what are these guys going to do with such a platform?
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