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ohub 12/5/2012 | 12:41:32 AM
re: Cisco Wins Round 1 Against Huawei If Cisco finally wins in court, then it will lose its future in China. Its market share there will drop greatly in no time. Look and see. The best way for Cisco is to make an agreement with Huawei out of court.

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kampar 12/5/2012 | 12:41:28 AM
re: Cisco Wins Round 1 Against Huawei
"Mark Sue?" You just can't make this stuff up ....

"Sue notes that China is a significant market for Cisco with about a $1 billion per year opportunity for the company."

lahlah 12/5/2012 | 12:41:27 AM
re: Cisco Wins Round 1 Against Huawei Cisco should (and probably will) go after them all over the world, including Europe, Japan, Korea and China itself. At the very least the copyright case seems a slam dunk everywhere except possibly China. Cisco has a shot even in China. The Danish company that makes Legos recently won a case in China against toy knock-off makers, even though many people were not expecting the Chinese courts to do anything. The patent cases are more difficult, but the payoff is bigger--Huawei couldn't save itself by simply developing its own equivalent technology.

There's no way to change the apparent culture of rampant theft at Huawei other than making theft not pay. Without the suits, theft pays.
cyber_techy 12/5/2012 | 12:41:26 AM
re: Cisco Wins Round 1 Against Huawei All Huawei needs is to disable those two protocols that no one uses anyway and change the wording of the help files.
road__runner 12/5/2012 | 12:41:25 AM
re: Cisco Wins Round 1 Against Huawei Cisco indicated they tried for a long time
to negotiate out of court with Huawei before
finally going to court.

Those who are professionals from any country
(China or not) recognize that this has nothing
to do with race and everything to do with
whether intellectual property should be
protectable or not. Even Chinese who are forward
thinking recognize that very well. Nobody
becomes great by copying or stealing.

If Huawei can become a great power without
using techniques which are illegal, thats
fantastic, good luck to them!
skeptic 12/5/2012 | 12:41:24 AM
re: Cisco Wins Round 1 Against Huawei If Cisco finally wins in court, then it will lose its future in China. Its market share there will drop greatly in no time. Look and see.
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The history of these sorts of disputes suggests
that cisco's future in china will not change
regardless of the court case. If the chinese
government favors Huawei enough to block
cisco from its market in retaliation, they
will favor Huawei over cisco in every other
situation.

And as far as settling, going to court wasn't
ciscos first choice. The court case happened
because of Huawei's arrogance.
rjmcmahon 12/5/2012 | 12:41:24 AM
re: Cisco Wins Round 1 Against Huawei There's no way to change a culture of rampant theft other than making theft not pay.

Another perspective is to focus as much, or more, effort on the "pay" as on the "not pay". In other words, enabling people so they can earn an honest living would be part of any culture that discourages thievery.
rjmcmahon 12/5/2012 | 12:41:23 AM
re: Cisco Wins Round 1 Against Huawei Nobody becomes great by copying.

This seems to be a difficult lesson to teach. Ever watch a group of students assigned to a problem? The majority looks to everybody else for the answer. I've seen this behavior from from 1st grade all they way through university levels.

Rewarding original work is necessary to acheive greatness. And unfortunately, most metrics we use today which attempt to measure things seem to miss the mark and rather motivate "copying" behavior (though these poor metrics do seem to make it easier to apply things like status symbols). We'll need to find a way to grow past that if we are to achieve our greatness.
GO_PHOTON 12/5/2012 | 12:41:22 AM
re: Cisco Wins Round 1 Against Huawei If Huawei modifies its software so that
it removes everything related to Cisco
law suite, then asks all its customers
to upgrade the router image, then
can they come back to US market ?
The outsider 12/5/2012 | 12:41:21 AM
re: Cisco Wins Round 1 Against Huawei "Nobody becomes great by copying."

I guess you must be too young to know what the Japanese did back in the 60's and 70's. Among other things, they took over the TV market completely. Not to mention cars.....

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