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mr zippy 12/5/2012 | 1:35:54 AM
re: Cisco May Pocket Procket Tony - Li(ar)

Overdesigner, overpriced and no-sustainable market.

I'm no lawyer, however I'd suggest Truelight1 that you would be getting close to the point of receiving a lawsuit for comments like this one, especially in letigeous America.

Demonstrate the courage to come out from behind your pseudonym, if you are going to make such comments.
t_jones 12/5/2012 | 1:35:53 AM
re: Cisco May Pocket Procket Heh. Tony must be flattered to have a troll that's obsessed with him. And an anonymous troll at that. :-)
arch_1 12/5/2012 | 1:35:53 AM
re: Cisco May Pocket Procket BobbyMax! we are so happy you have chosen to rejoin us!

This give me another oportunity to make sure LightReading's "Ignore author" button still works...
coreghost 12/5/2012 | 1:35:52 AM
re: Cisco May Pocket Procket This is clearly a stop gap acquisition &#8211; as CSCO doesn&#8217;t really have a deployable product for the next 18 months &#8211; deploying the 128xx would result in a complete $ write-off within month &#8211; JNPR will eat Cisco&#8217;s lunch and this acquisition positioned as an &#8220;asset acquisition&#8221; is an admission of where the CRS-1 stands today vis-+á-vis the T-640.

I don't agree. If this is all true, it would
be more likely that procket would be used to
shore up other areas of the product line where
cisco has aging equipment. I think the use of
it as a core product by cisco is unlikely. But
in other roles (with all the software thrown
away), it might be of use.

see_the 12/5/2012 | 1:35:50 AM
re: Cisco May Pocket Procket Hmmmmm....

Everyone is asking what does Cisco see... Certainly, it is neither the customer base nor the employees at $80M. Cisco could give a fraction of that money directly to either the customers or employees, and make more progress.

It must be the intellectual property...

System: The problem is that they would have 3 software platforms Cisco IOS, CSR, and Procket.

40G NPU: Not likely since they just built one with IBM unless they are trying to corner the market on 40G processors.

Switching architecture: Again, not likely because it is hard to reintegrate hardware back into an existing hardware platform.

OS and Protocol Software: Of the above, this is the more likely. This implies that the CSR software is not the long term strategy... Or, a battle could be shaping about which software platform is ported onto new hardware platforms.

Anyway, Cisco only bought the assets.... Who bought the liabilities!?!?!

It reminds me of the Polish accountant who embezzled the liabilities of the company... Maybe, it was the Nortel accountant!!??! ;-)
startup_shutup 12/5/2012 | 1:35:47 AM
re: Cisco May Pocket Procket ... unless you get to make decisions technical
or administrative. Otherwise you have got
everything to lose. Do not chase mirrages, wait
for the next wave.
pig3head 12/5/2012 | 1:35:47 AM
re: Cisco May Pocket Procket I think cisco's aggressive rivals like huawei have eyed on Procket for that they have not opportunity to catch up with cisco's high end router technology after the CRS-1's coming true.

Few in the world can offer 40G and modular OS. No doubt, announcement for CRS-1 in cisco's D-day spoil cisco's competitor's confidence to catch up.

As we know, huawei's hatch of new core router has taken so long the time that it must oemed box from AVICI.

Avici's list in stock market make it hard for huawei to acquire it. Therefore, private-hold Procket is the best choice.

Procket's IPs about 40G and modular OS are just what huawei want.

After learning this, cisco decides to acquire Procket immetiately to protect self.

I think that the leading actor are not just cisco and Procket, certain 3th part must be involved.

All thses were caused by CRS-1.
diag_eng 12/5/2012 | 1:35:44 AM
re: Cisco May Pocket Procket If Cisco is buying Procket, which I doubt, then it's most likely a tactical move intended to prohibit another competitor (Alcatel, NT, etc.) from acquiring them. Cisco did this in the early-to-mid stages of the bubble by acquiring small software companies developing routing code, e.g. GateD.

What would be the compelling reason(s) for a Cisco buyout of Procket?

1. Tactical (see above paragraph)
2. HFR is a toilet

If you can think of any other reasons, then please post them.
signmeup 12/5/2012 | 1:35:41 AM
re: Cisco May Pocket Procket This is purely a defensive buy for Cisco. They saw an opportunity to remove a potential competitor for very little $$$. They will kill the product and offer HFR replacements to those poor customers that were early adopters of Procket.

What remains to be seen is if Cisco uses any of the technology or if they just scrap it in favor of what they already have. My bet is that the 'not invented here' syndrome wins in the end and all that will be left of Procket is a handful of patents and fond memories of the bubble...
wilecoyote 12/5/2012 | 1:35:39 AM
re: Cisco May Pocket Procket Well, I can think of 60 reasons for Cisco to buy Procket. Juniper basically listed them: all the customers who were waiting for HFR and now going with T-640. Those 60 customers will probably acount for about 300-400M in sales over the next 2-3 years. Say what you want about Procket but the fact is, the box works and people are buying it. Cisco needs something people can use right now, as opposed to 18 months from now when CSR 1 is done being tested (best case).
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