Caspian Comes Out

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gea 12/5/2012 | 12:15:17 AM

re: Caspian Comes Out Booby:

Why don't you just boilerplate your criticisms of new companies? Then you can just cut-and-paste. Try this:

"This company is clearly trying to deceive investors by selling a product that won't work. After all of their investment money dries up the CEO will run away to India to live the rest of his life in luxury. From this it is clear that this company would not survive, particularly by spreading untrue lies that are false."

I hereby give you permission ole Booby to just cut-and-paste this onto every board you feel inclined to air your opinions on. Better yet, just post a link to this very post! Wait...I can do it for you as a generic "Booby Speaks"...

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gea 12/5/2012 | 12:15:17 AM

re: Caspian Comes Out Hey, I just noticed something. WHenever Booby shows up on a board, his post seems to automatically attract a '1' very quickly. I'm wondering if the Lightreading Servers have a bandwidth-saving application these days that just auto-ascribes a 1 to Booby...

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ThouShaltNotJudge 12/5/2012 | 12:15:16 AM

re: Caspian Comes Out I noticed the same thing with another user, Light Bulb, only his/her posts, no matter how banal, immediately earn a rating of 5.

It would almost appear that certain users joined LR on the buddy-system; one to post and the other to rank. I suppose for some it's quite a life accomplishment to earn promotions on the LR message board.

Perhaps Booby has cloned a self-depricating version of himself and is doing the same thing.

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russ4br 12/5/2012 | 12:15:16 AM

re: Caspian Comes Out Or is the assumption that Larry will personally be provisioning each box that is sold?

That might be a feasible strategy if they do not sell many boxes ... ;^)

- russ

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gladysnight 12/5/2012 | 12:15:14 AM

re: Caspian Comes Out wainflete:
"Or is the assumption that Larry will personally be provisioning each box that is sold?"

Both of them?

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gladysnight 12/5/2012 | 12:15:13 AM

re: Caspian Comes Out TheNet:
"The way to go for QOS is more control & resource reservations. And please note I didn't say RSVP.

The architecture of the venerable PSTN will come back."
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I've been saying this for a long time. But the packet switching priesthood will have its day, and its say.

I don't have any particular company or architecture axe to grind, I just call it as I see it.

But a lambda-router IS fundamentally a circuit switch, just as a TDM is (was?), and etc.

Layering packet flows over a circuit, and doing so in a fashion that best resolves the conflict between the quality the customer needs/wants and the price they're able/willing to pay, is the problem facing every service provider - and thus every equipment maker that wants to sell to them.

Personally, I believe that circuit switching is just simpler, therefore cheaper, and a whole lot less hassle in the core.

If you take "the rise of the stupid network" to its logical conclusion, carriers core transport divisions should not be doing ANY packet level operations within their network layer. They should simply be wholesaling to edge service providers that aggregate similar traffic types onto flows or streams that are then assigned to the core transport operators circuits.

But hey; what the hell do I know?

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IP_freely 12/5/2012 | 12:15:12 AM

re: Caspian Comes Out So, I see the god of Procket Tony Li responding in the procket forum... where is good 'ol Larry on the Caspian forum. He has been featured in Light reading several times so I think he would be no stranger to this site... and I am sure this Caspian forum could use just 1 positive comment about micro flows at the CORE.

So Nietzsche, is God dead?

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TheNet 12/5/2012 | 12:15:10 AM

re: Caspian Comes Out At the end of the day, if customers are willing to pay for guarantees on services involving packet switching, admission control, policing & resource reservations are mandatory.

Once those functions are in place, what will be the difference between what we call "circuit switching" and "session based packet switching"?

Two things: more granularity & density of services.

Oh, and one more thing... Best Effort Public Internet Access... for free... as always.

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mmmmflows 12/5/2012 | 12:15:08 AM

re: Caspian Comes Out I don't know why everyone is so skeptical here. Flow based routing in the core is clearly the wave of the future (pun intended). What better place to keep state than the core? I bet you could map the whole internet this way. Routing as we know it will be dead. All we'll need is a few orders of magnitude over terrabytes of memory do it effectively. And to make sure that route flaps don't occur, which would obviously kill a flow based router (wouldn't you have to have the horsepower to route each packet as a new flow worst case?, if so, what's the point?), why not just make route flapping illegal. Circuits, err I mean flows all the way!

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mmmmflows 12/5/2012 | 12:15:07 AM

re: Caspian Comes Out Are not typical flows very short with the typical example being an Email message. Would route flaps have a signficant effect on such time scales?

yes! exactly. i must have been on crack. email will always be the driving application on the web, so why worry about the future? telco's are always going to be excited about buying new boxes when the underlying traffic patterns change. the internet is, after all, a static system with very very predictable behavior. no need to worry about worst case or future case. let's concentrate on typical case, as we understand it.

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