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technonerd 12/5/2012 | 2:42:23 AM
re: Carrier Offers Convergence Twist If you don't converge VoIP and data then I seriously doubt how it can make good business sense.
Yeah, and then you really have to ask why the carriers would want to take voice, for which they've always been able to charge at least five times as much as data because of QoS and its mission critical nature, and turn it into a commodity.

Maybe competition will make them do it, but carriers that sell voice at a loss are stark, raving nuts to even think of doing that.
jim_smith 12/5/2012 | 2:42:23 AM
re: Carrier Offers Convergence Twist If you don't converge VoIP and data then I seriously doubt how it can make good business sense.

Kingston must have got Riverstone boxes at dirt cheap prices. Kingston might make money in the short run, but they will run into problems when they try to scale the network.

IP/MPLS is simply not ready for VoIP.
alchemy 12/5/2012 | 2:42:09 AM
re: Carrier Offers Convergence Twist Many carriers have a ton of unlit dark fiber kicking around (or, barring that, unused wavelengths). The capital expense of running VoIP on a separate network just isn't all that large when you compare it to the risk of rolling out a voice service that train wrecks.
indianajones 12/5/2012 | 2:41:55 AM
re: Carrier Offers Convergence Twist alchemy

Unlit fiber is a very small part of the total overall expense. Lighting a fiber involves turning up amplifiers, OEO regenerators, DWDM ports as well as any IP ports which are not cheap by any stretch of imagination.

Having two separate networks is pretty mind-boggling to say the least when you consider opex, sparing costs etc.
tlap2004 12/5/2012 | 2:39:38 AM
re: Carrier Offers Convergence Twist You are absolutely correct. Riverstone has nothing new and innovative to offer. The companyGÇÖs good engineers have either already left or are about to leave. Moreover, the companyGÇÖs engineering management is full of Parvin MandalGÇÖs buddies and their buddies and their buddies.

I worked with Parvin at Redback Networks. He was a second-rate engineer, who became rich in the dot-com boom. He is nothing but an idiot.
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