Calix Reveals Its Fiber Future

COMMENTS

Newest First | Oldest First | Threaded View

Page 1 / 3 > >>

cnwedit 12/5/2012 | 4:19:15 PM

re: Calix Reveals Its Fiber Future

Just curious - what makes the Occam box better for Qwest and the non-FiOS, non-Uverse populations than the C7, E-7, E-20 progression?

Reply | Post Message | MESSAGES LIST | START A BOARD

spc_markl 12/5/2012 | 4:19:15 PM

re: Calix Reveals Its Fiber Future

I should add that I would not rule out at all Calix's existing product line for some of the RBOC market.

Mark

Reply | Post Message | MESSAGES LIST | START A BOARD

spc_markl 12/5/2012 | 4:19:15 PM

re: Calix Reveals Its Fiber Future

My understanding is that it has the potential to scale better.

Mark

Reply | Post Message | MESSAGES LIST | START A BOARD

spc_markl 12/5/2012 | 4:19:15 PM

re: Calix Reveals Its Fiber Future

Calix will keep its existing installed base happy with the upgrade, while using the Occam box to strive to penetrate the Qwest portion of CenturyLink, as well as look to make inroads at the other two RBOCs in non-FiOS/non-U-verse territories.

Mark Lutkowitz, Telecom Pragmatics

Reply | Post Message | MESSAGES LIST | START A BOARD

paolo.franzoi 12/5/2012 | 4:19:14 PM

re: Calix Reveals Its Fiber Future

Occam is much better to deploy as a small remote DSLAM that is based around Ethernet than anything that Calix has had.  That is similar to the Adtran models that get deployed.  See also Frontier's new purchase of Verizon lines.

As to Calix in the RBOCs...ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha....falls on the floor.  Ha ha ha ha ha ha....throws up from laughing so hard. Ha ha ha ha...almost has a heart attack from laughter.  They are not an AT&T domain vendor and are not in FiOS.  So, they have 0 play in the two remaining RBOCs.  They have not the hope of crystalized water spheres in Satan's domain.

seven

 

Reply | Post Message | MESSAGES LIST | START A BOARD

spc_markl 12/5/2012 | 4:19:13 PM

re: Calix Reveals Its Fiber Future

Well, the Qwest territory does not require OSMINE for this equipment anymore.  So, Calix may have a strong indication from Verizon.  I certainly never said that there would be any guarantees of RBOC business anyway.

Mark

Reply | Post Message | MESSAGES LIST | START A BOARD

paolo.franzoi 12/5/2012 | 4:19:13 PM

re: Calix Reveals Its Fiber Future

 

Problem in Verizon and they ALREADY buy Alcatel and Tellabs for those properties is the volume is VERY low - less than $5M per year.  Given that it is $20+ million to approve a new product their chances of doing anything is nada nil nicht.  The moment they get close - Alcatel will lower prices.  Heck AFC won a 2nd source DSLAM deal and got 0 business from Verizon because of Alcatel.

They had to do OSMINE for Qwest.  Remember Qwest used to be an RBOC called US West. 

seven

Edit:  Forgot to add - FiOS and lots of AT&T are no longer on OSMINE.  The old GTE properties never used OSMINE as well. 

Reply | Post Message | MESSAGES LIST | START A BOARD

spc_markl 12/5/2012 | 4:19:13 PM

re: Calix Reveals Its Fiber Future

Verizon is looking at the Calix box in non-FiOS areas as I said below -- that means copper.  The PUCs are putting a lot of pressure on Verizon to provide broadband in other areas of its territory.  The low-cost Calix boxes would be a good alternative.

It is also my understanding that Calix has gone through some of the OSMINE approval process and nobody pays that "extortion" money to Telcordia unless there is a good chance for RBOC business.

I admit that AT&T will be a harder sell because it does as little as it possibly can in general.  But nothing is written in stone including domain vendors.

Mark

Reply | Post Message | MESSAGES LIST | START A BOARD

paolo.franzoi 12/5/2012 | 4:19:12 PM

re: Calix Reveals Its Fiber Future

People that know anything about access do know about it.  Since you don't, I see no need to enlighten you.

Better recheck the OSMINE thing again.  I know of a product that required OSMINE by Qwest last year.  Calix was part of a DLC RFP to replace the Alcatel and Reltec products.  Let's see that product that Qwest wanted OSMINE for...oh yeah the C7.

seven

 

Reply | Post Message | MESSAGES LIST | START A BOARD

spc_markl 12/5/2012 | 4:19:12 PM

re: Calix Reveals Its Fiber Future

No, you better recheck it -- Qwest does not currently require OSMINE for this gear.

Why don't you enlighten me on BBAIS?

Mark

 

 

Reply | Post Message | MESSAGES LIST | START A BOARD

Page 1 / 3 > >>