re: Avici Abandons Routing, Targets PBTRay, several analysts I speak with feel Juniper will be the primary supplier now that Avici killed the Coke machine. Juniper will not talk, but have you gotten any outside confirmation.? Also Cisco just has not unseated Juniper in the core anywhere, so this seems to be a strong possibility.
re: Avici Abandons Routing, Targets PBTWhen I say last of the startups, I realize they are a public company, but they were once part of a group of telecom-boom core-router startups. I wonder if they are the last to finally give up.
re: Avici Abandons Routing, Targets PBT Probably becuase they just could not engineer a next generation of technology. If you have no roadmap, then it is pretty hard to get or keep customers.
re: Avici Abandons Routing, Targets PBTWe are working on 2 follow-up articles:
-- What is AT&T's routing strategy now?
-- Where does this leave the core routing market, and what options do carriers have?
The Avici team had to do SOMETHING, and believe that focusing on Soapstone is a better choice than just withering on the vine or liquidating the company. And it looks like they couldn't find a buyer, which is not that surprising really.
re: Avici Abandons Routing, Targets PBTAvici was never able to increase its base in the core mainly due to a lack of vision and arrogant leadership that resulted in the loss of key talent.
When they first came out, they had the largest router on the scene with the rightful claim of being the most scalable.
They failed to realize that the customers did not really care about scalability and were never able to compete with the service offerings that Juniper and Cisco had.
The Avici TSR/SSR/QSR products were a great architecture and a treat to developers. It is sad to see things like this happen. A lot of high quality creativity went into it. I think the Avici engineers do deserve a pat on their backs for doing what they did. They are not to be blamed for the poor management that existed prior to Will Leighton taking over.
Will Leighton inherited a company in a mess. It was a horrible place to work due to a work environment that fostered negativity. From what I heard he tried his best to clean up, but it was just to late.
Maybe its a lesson to other startups/companies out there on how to achieve success. Be more humble and try to accept reality. Your employees are as important as your customers. You may have the best product but there is many a slip between the cup and the lip... :)
re: Avici Abandons Routing, Targets PBTI wonder if ALU might step in here and pick up the core routing from Avici. Their 7750 product isn't really a core play here, but they could leverage that tallent. They also have a tremendous amount of business that they do with AT&T now. Any rumors of this?
re: Avici Abandons Routing, Targets PBTAfter all, once you have a good T-MPLS or PBT core and a set of edge routers that can handle a reasonable number of ports why on earth do we still need to have a core router as well?
According to the market response, the analysts believe that the management is intent to direct the company into the ground.
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Avici giving up routing is like GMC saying they are no longer going to make automobiles.
I guess if you have only one customer, and that customer is looking elsewhere, then this is a pretty brave move.
It would make sense for AT&T to have both Juniper and Cisco in the core.
-tsat
Probably becuase they just could not engineer a next generation of technology. If you have no roadmap, then it is pretty hard to get or keep customers.
-tsat
-- What is AT&T's routing strategy now?
-- Where does this leave the core routing market, and what options do carriers have?
The Avici team had to do SOMETHING, and believe that focusing on Soapstone is a better choice than just withering on the vine or liquidating the company.
And it looks like they couldn't find a buyer, which is not that surprising really.
Ray
When they first came out, they had the largest router on the scene with the rightful claim of being the most scalable.
They failed to realize that the customers did not really care about scalability and were never able to compete with the service offerings that Juniper and Cisco had.
The Avici TSR/SSR/QSR products were a great architecture and a treat to developers. It is sad to see things like this happen. A lot of high quality creativity went into it. I think the Avici engineers do deserve a pat on their backs for doing what they did. They are not to be blamed for the poor management that existed prior to Will Leighton taking over.
Will Leighton inherited a company in a mess. It was a horrible place to work due to a work environment that fostered negativity. From what I heard he tried his best to clean up, but it was just to late.
Maybe its a lesson to other startups/companies out there on how to achieve success. Be more humble and try to accept reality. Your employees are as important as your customers. You may have the best product but there is many a slip between the cup and the lip... :)
Maybe Avici understands this?