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coreghost 12/5/2012 | 1:26:51 AM
re: ATM & MPLS Forums Merge Its certainly interesting to see this union. However, LR is making it more sensational than it is. Its just the good old layer 2 connections
oriented folks getting together.


I dont think its even very interesting. These
groups were linked since the MPLS forum was
started and more than anything, I think this is
an admission on their part that their efforts to
change MPLS have failed.

priam 12/5/2012 | 1:26:54 AM
re: ATM & MPLS Forums Merge MPLS:
1) label stacking -> deep hierarchy
2) defined for multiple L2s, including Ethernet
3) IP signaling

Other than that, they're identical ;-)

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It should be obvious to everybody that MPLS is merely ATM with packets rather than cells, and with less jitter control.
FinBurger 12/5/2012 | 1:26:55 AM
re: ATM & MPLS Forums Merge It should be obvious to everybody that MPLS is merely ATM with packets rather than cells, and with less jitter control.

(And, guess what happens when those packets go into a switch fabric? Turned into cells...)

The funny thing is that the same people and equipment companies that tore mercilessly at ATM have adoped MPLS. I guess the size of the telco's capital budget convinced them to accept connections. They are a necessary complexity when you want a network to earn its living.
imref 12/5/2012 | 1:26:56 AM
re: ATM & MPLS Forums Merge One of the most interesting observations at last month's "Supercomm" was the lack of MPLS-related hype in the exhibit hall. I spoke to a few folks about this and the general consensus was that MPLS "won" the battle for the core of the service provider network and the industry had moved on to focus on things like VoIP & triple play. Almost every network architecture diagram that was posted showed a network core based on IP/MPLS.

Look at major announcements from AT&T & MCI among others to migrate their networks to an IP/MPLS core. ATM is dead, it lost, it's over, accept it, get over it, the moose out front should have told you so.
rajsharma 12/5/2012 | 1:26:58 AM
re: ATM & MPLS Forums Merge Its certainly interesting to see this union. However, LR is making it more sensational than it is. Its just the good old layer 2 connections
oriented folks getting together.

fredfrenzy 12/5/2012 | 1:26:58 AM
re: ATM & MPLS Forums Merge Absolutely. Certainly NA providers with large frame/atm networks believe MPLS will give them the migration path they need to new deliver MPLS based private data services that are optimized for IP packet traffic. Alcatel/Newbridge had a MPLS/IP core in their 7670 for a long time....but they are selling it now (although not all Carriers will talk about it) as the last upgrade of their ATM/Multiservice networks.
gigeguy 12/5/2012 | 1:27:01 AM
re: ATM & MPLS Forums Merge No matter what was said back three years ago (is that the most recent MPLS criticism you can find?), MPLS has proved to be a market success. Cisco alone claims to have sold over $3B of MPLS equipment, and have hundreds of service provider deployments, including at both Mike's and Peter's old companies. And MPLS has been helping Juniper sell their stuff as well. As Yakov Rekhter likes to say, the proof is in the pudding, not talking about it. So it's Yakov that should be saying I told you so, not Mike and Peter.
particle_man 12/5/2012 | 1:27:01 AM
re: ATM & MPLS Forums Merge If you add an "i", TRAMP FILMS is an anagram.

Add an "u" and you can make SMART FLUMP. That has a nice ring to it.
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