Access Point Tiff Simmers

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standardsarefun 12/5/2012 | 12:07:58 AM

re: Access Point Tiff Simmers This ID is still a long way from being finalised and it is probably a "bit too early" to get overly excited about this individual submission ID which doesn't even seem to align with SEAMOBY charter (see http://www.ietf.org/html.chart...

What does everyone think? Will this stand up in SEAMOBY without changes?

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jacksullivan66 12/5/2012 | 12:07:50 AM

re: Access Point Tiff Simmers My comments in a posting on 4/15 were basically as follows:

With all the switching intelligence either
reduced to silicon (Engim) or thrown into
a switch on the network core (Trapeze,
Aruba, Extreme, etc.), why do we need
"dedicated" equipment like Access Points?
If I were Dell / HP, I'd be putting an
Engim chip inside every one of my
enterprise class PCs (effectively turning
them into "thin APs"), and letting the
switch on the network do the rest. With
so much of the WLAN intelligence not
requiring a dedicated AP, and an already
tangible trend toward "thin" APs, I'm not
sure I'd want to be a WLAN Access Point
vendor right now...

Two weeks later, a Cisco engineer co-authors a "thin AP" spec within the IETF. Then, almost immediately, Cisco's product line manager for wireless LANs, Ron Seide and "a spokesperson" go on a "PR offensive" to suppress any indication that Cisco is going to support the thin AP movement...

Hey Dan Jones - did you contact Cisco for this article, or did they reach out to you to "straighten out the record"? Very curious to know.

The key point is the one I made two weeks ago - before Glen Zorn's minor IETF slip-up; Cisco realizes that a thin AP architecture will cost them money - potentially lots of it! - and they'll resist it until the last gasp. It's obviously important enough for them to go on a press offensive to make sure there's no market confusion on their stance...

Within a year, expect an acquisition of one of the switch startups that Xtreme is so fond of beating up...

Any Cisco folks care to speak up on this point?

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standardsarefun 12/5/2012 | 12:07:44 AM

re: Access Point Tiff Simmers >> Two weeks later, a Cisco engineer co-authors a "thin AP" spec within the IETF. Then, almost immediately, Cisco's product line manager for wireless LANs, Ron Seide and "a spokesperson" go on a "PR offensive" to suppress any indication that Cisco is going to support the thin AP movement...

Not the first time I have seen Cisco fighting Cisco inside IETF :-)

Makes me wonder if these guy have never installed a real standards management system within the company or if they "prefer to work like that"

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