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Fat Stats Phase II: Baptists

Larry, Monkey
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Larry, Monkey
8/28/2006

11:20 PM -- The Chicago SunTimes asks whether Christianity is fattening:

    "America is becoming known as a nation of gluttony and obesity, and churches are a feeding ground for this problem," says Ken Ferraro, a Purdue sociology professor who studied more than 2,500 adults over a span of eight years looking at the correlation between their religious behavior and their body mass index...

    Ferraro's most recent study, published in the June issue of the Journal for the Scientific Study of Religion, is a follow-up to a study he published in 1998, where he found there were more obese people in states with larger populations of folks claiming a religious affiliation than elsewhere -- particularly in states with the most Baptists.

    So it's not surprising that Ferraro's latest study found that about 27 percent of Baptists, including Southern Baptists, North American Baptists, and Fundamentalist Baptist, were obese...

    In religious traditions where drinking alcohol, smoking anything and even dancing are vices regularly preached against from the pulpit, overeating has become the "accepted vice," Ferraro says.
Whatever. This is some fat will not be in the fire.

— Larry, Accepted Vice Monkey, Light Reading

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sfwriter
sfwriter
12/5/2012 | 3:43:02 AM
re: Fat Stats Phase II: Baptists
Weight varies widely by city. It may be difficult to believe this is a problem when you're sitting in the middle of NYC or San Francisco but not if you move to the Midwest. The quality of food in many of these cities is terrible. Order a salad in Pittsburgh. Chances are it will arrive with french fries on top.

You can find out if you live in a skinny city here:

http://money.cnn.com/magazines...
Larry, Monkey
Larry, Monkey
12/5/2012 | 3:42:59 AM
re: Fat Stats Phase II: Baptists
Yes, there is an excess of adipose out there, but throwing around preposterously bogus stats doesn't help matters.

As this booklet points out, among the flawed obesity studies, many have been funded by the pharmaceutical companies that want to sell you weight-loss pills:
http://www.consumerfreedom.com...
rjmcmahon
rjmcmahon
12/5/2012 | 3:42:59 AM
re: Fat Stats Phase II: Baptists
Nice honest source.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/ind...

The Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF) (formerly called the "Guest Choice Network") is a front group for the restaurant, alcohol and tobacco industries. It runs media campaigns which oppose the efforts of scientists, doctors, health advocates, environmentalists and groups like Mothers Against Drunk Driving, calling them "the Nanny Culture -- the growing fraternity of food cops, health care enforcers, anti-meat activists, and meddling bureaucrats who 'know what's best for you.' "

...

Starting Off Smoking

Berman launched the Guest Choice Network in 1995. Its initial funding came entirely from the Philip Morris tobacco company. "I'd lke to propose to Philip Morris the establishment of the Guest Choice Network," Berman stated in a December 11, 1995 letter to Barbara Trach (http://www.prwatch.org/documen..., PM's senior program manager for public affairs. "The concept is to unite the restaurant and hospitality industries in a campaign to defend their consumers and marketing programs against attacks from anti-smoking, anti-drinking, anti-meat, etc. activists. ... I would like to solicit Philip Morris for an initial contribution of $600,000." The purpose of the Guest Choice Network, as Berman explained in a separate planning document (http://www.prwatch.org/documen..., would be to enlist operators of "restaurants, hotels, casinos, bowling alleys, taverns, stadiums, and university hospitality educators" to "support mentality of 'smokers rights' by encouraging responsibility to protect 'guest choice.'" According to a yearend 1995 budget (http://www.prwatch.org/documen..., Guest Choice planned to spend $1.5 million during its first 13 months of operation, including $390,000 for "membership marketing/materials development," $430,000 to establish a communication center and newsletter (which Berman promised would have a "60% to 70% smoking focus" (http://www.prwatch.org/documen..., $110,000 to create a "multi-industry advisory council," and $345,000 for "grassroots network development/operation."

The tobacco company complied with Berman's initial funding request for $600,000 (http://www.prwatch.org/documen... and pitched in another $300,000 early the following year. "As of this writing, PM USA is still the only contributor, though Berman continues to promise others any day now," wrote Philip Morris attorney Marty Barrington in an internal company memorandum dated March 28, 1996 (http://www.prwatch.org/documen.... Aside from Philip Morris, there are no other publicly-known funders of Guest Choice until its public launch two years later, in April 1998, sporting an advisory board comprised mostly of representatives from the restaurant, meat and alcoholic beverage industries.

CogswellCogs
CogswellCogs
12/5/2012 | 3:42:57 AM
re: Fat Stats Phase II: Baptists
and your source is honest?

Sourcewatch.org is a project of the Center for Media & Democracy, a public relations effort disguised as an independent media organization that was started by the leftwing author and anti-war and environmental activist John Stauber. Look up his books, and if you think he's unbiased or a moderate, we are operating from different definitions.

Michael Harris
Michael Harris
12/5/2012 | 3:42:56 AM
re: Fat Stats Phase II: Baptists
No use getting in the middle of this one, except to day Cogswell, glad someone out there is offering a viable competition to Spacely Sprockets. :)
rjmcmahon
rjmcmahon
12/5/2012 | 3:42:55 AM
re: Fat Stats Phase II: Baptists
Fair enough on John Stauber not being a moderate. Don't think obesity has got anything to do with religious affilliation either. Nor are the pharmaceuticals creating obesity myths so they can sell diet pills.

Weight loss is so very simple conceptually, calories intake less than calories expended, but very hard in practice. I recommend weight watchers. Worked for me.
Larry, Monkey
Larry, Monkey
12/5/2012 | 3:42:55 AM
re: Fat Stats Phase II: Baptists
He may be a godless commie, but he's quite thin.
CogswellCogs
CogswellCogs
12/5/2012 | 3:42:54 AM
re: Fat Stats Phase II: Baptists
(This reply is to rj - stupid animal characters irritate me)

Good point on the calorie equation. That's real science, not the fake stuff spouted by the diet pill folks. It is easy to say it but hard to live it, so congrats on finding a support system that worked for you. At the rate I'm going, if I don't learn to balance that equation soon, I'll be joining you.
optodoofus
optodoofus
12/5/2012 | 3:42:53 AM
re: Fat Stats Phase II: Baptists
No, you guys have the obesity thing all wrong. It's NOT MY FAULT I'm fat. It's those darn stress hormones. I know it's true becasue I saw it on TV. But not to worry, my Relacore shipment is on its way!

optodoofus
CogswellCogs
CogswellCogs
12/5/2012 | 3:42:52 AM
re: Fat Stats Phase II: Baptists
opto - I don't know what it is, but I find something strangely appealing about that woman talking about belly fat in the Relacore commercials.
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