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Source: Cisco's HFR Tips the Scales

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Light Reading
10/31/2003

Networking equipment giant Cisco Systems Inc. (Nasdaq: CSCO) is building a router of colossal proportions, according to one source familiar with the product. The behemoth core routing platform supposedly links to up to 18 different chassis, weighs more than 1,300 pounds per chassis, and has a total system capacity of 11.5 Tbit/s.

Sound farfetched? It may well be. Light Reading couldn't independently verify our source's data, but those familiar with Cisco's plans -- analysts and other sources -- say the findings sound authentic based on their past meetings with carriers reviewing the product.

If true, these few details that have leaked out are significant, given that Cisco won't even publicly acknowledge that the product exists. Folks have speculated about Cisco's Huge Fast Router (HFR) for years. Most recently, some were expecting its debut at Supercomm 2003, then again at the International Telecommunication Union's ITU Telecom tradeshow in Geneva.

"We know it’s out there," says Stephen Kamman, an analyst with CIBC World Markets. "Everyone’s just waiting for Cisco to tell us what we already know."

Several analysts say the product is in trials with at least six carriers, two of which are believed to be AT&T Corp. (NYSE: T) and Sprint Corp. (NYSE: FON), and at least one major regional Bell operator.

The long-awaited router is interesting, in part, because Cisco has spent an exorbitant amount of time and money developing the beast, sources say. For example, the company has built an entirely new operating system to run the thing.

Kevin Mitchell, an analyst with Infonetics Research Inc., says that most carriers are still only testing the software. Consequently, he doesn’t expect the product to be commercially deployed for at least another 12 months.

Here are some other details one Light Reading source was able to uncover after reviewing documents that Cisco itself circulated about its product:

  • Architecture
    The HFR router can be configured in one of three architectures: single core; dual core, interconnected with 1.2 Tbit/s parallel-optical-link (Paroli cables); or multicore, with two core chassis that interconnect up to 18 chassis.
  • Software
    As mentioned, Cisco has developed an entirely new operating system for the HFR. The command line interface looks a lot like Cisco's Internetwork Operating System (IOS), the software that runs most routers today. The IOS and the new operating system likely share a lot of the same code, but they are very different architecturally. Unlike IOS, the new OS is modular and runs different software packages that enable various large feature sets, such as management, MPLS, routing protocols, multicast, and security.
  • Capacity
    In aggregate, the backplane of the system scales up to 11.5 Tbit/s. There has also been mention of supporting OC768 (40-Gbit/s) connections as part of a planning consideration for the product.
  • Processors
    Routing protocols are still handled by one or two dedicated route processors in each chassis. For scaleability, an additional distributed route processor can be installed in any line-card slot. This processor is similar to Cisco's Distributed Cisco Express Forwarding (dCEF), deployed on its lower-end routing platforms. The Express Forwarding processor provides each interface with an identical on-card copy of the FIB (forward information base) database, enabling them to autonomously perform express forwarding. The only difference with the distributed route processors on the HFR is that there is not a fixed 1:1 relationship between the line card and the forwarding table.
  • Virtual Routing
    Each slot in an HFR chassis can be assigned different virtual routers or logical routers. These logical routers can be separately rebooted, and each has its own configuration. But because each chassis is only given two route processors, virtualized scaleability is fairly limited.
  • Line-Card Flexibility
    In the line cards, the physical connection and optics have been separated from the routing functionality. As a result, the routing functionality can be mated with more than one type of physical optical connection -- so you could swap an OC12 for a Gigabit Ethernet card simply by changing the physical layer interface module.
  • Weight
    If you thought the TSR from Avici Systems Inc. (Nasdaq: AVCI; Frankfurt: BVC7) had a weight problem, get a load of the HFR (see Avici Battles Weight Problem ). One chassis is 1,350 lbs. -- about as much as a very large moose -- and gobbles 12 kilowatts of power.
Specifics about line-card densities on individual HFR chassis aren't known yet, but its scaleability recalls the Juniper Networks Inc. (Nasdaq: JNPR) T640 core chassis, which was introduced in 2002 (see Juniper Goes Terabit With the T640). At the time, Juniper outlined details of a new optical core it called the TX, which could be used to link together up to eight T640's. Cisco's scaleable router, deployed in a dual-core configuration, can supposedly link together up to 18 different chassis. Even though Juniper has introduced the concept of the TX, it hasn't formally launched the product, nor has it announced any customers that are using it.

"Considering that Juniper hasn’t released the TX core connection for the T640, it's really a matter of just comparing PowerPoint [presentations]," says Infonetics' Mitchell.

Avici is the only vendor that has a working multichassis implementation. The company announced in the second quarter of this year that AT&T had hooked two of its TSR routers together.

Cisco did not respond to requests for comment on this article. — Marguerite Reardon, Senior Editor, Light Reading

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nocompromise
nocompromise
12/4/2012 | 11:17:56 PM
re: Source: Cisco's HFR Tips the Scales
We are now hearing about a monster router by Cisco. What about Hyperchip and their core router??? Apparently, it is a beast that have everything the world needs.

The only problem for now, getting the first customer.
Yoda88us
Yoda88us
12/4/2012 | 11:17:54 PM
re: Source: Cisco's HFR Tips the Scales
FYI: The HFR isn't the official name, and the 'F' doesn't stand for 'Fast'. Recall that the GSR 12000 used to be called the BFR before its release, which stood for Big F'ing Router.

dishwasher
dishwasher
12/4/2012 | 11:17:54 PM
re: Source: Cisco's HFR Tips the Scales
Anyone heard anything? Do they still exist?
Dindon
Dindon
12/4/2012 | 11:17:53 PM
re: Source: Cisco's HFR Tips the Scales
HFR stand for High Financial Risk

If any operator is thinking to introduce this product in the network, they should understand that it's a pretty new HW and SW platform from an enterprise company that has a multiprotocol router since early 80s... how difficult will be to have stable system???
echo2
echo2
12/4/2012 | 11:17:53 PM
re: Source: Cisco's HFR Tips the Scales
Anyone heard anything? Do they still exist?
Did they ever get a CEO?
Did they ever get a VP of marketing?
Dig they ever get a VP of tech support?
edgecore
edgecore
12/4/2012 | 11:17:51 PM
re: Source: Cisco's HFR Tips the Scales
If any operator is thinking to introduce this product in the network, they should understand that it's a pretty new HW and SW platform from an enterprise company that has a multiprotocol router since early 80s... how difficult will be to have stable system???
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The hardware is very new...plus its all new processors (at least new in Cisco land)..and lots of them! Should be interesting...

On the SW side that is a good question....this router will run in a totally memory protected sw environment, which hopefully has helped Cisco find bugs quicker during testing vs the older monolihic IOS where you could spend 6 months finding bugs...

EC
AAL5
AAL5
12/4/2012 | 11:17:50 PM
re: Source: Cisco's HFR Tips the Scales
Lay off the crack pipe Booby,

As much as you would like to deny it, HFR is for real.

AAL5
BobbyMax
BobbyMax
12/4/2012 | 11:17:50 PM
re: Source: Cisco's HFR Tips the Scales
It is all fary tale planted by Cisco. There is no need for such a router as the core bandwiidth demand is decreasing very fast. More Procket has the oproduct in place which cam neet the demands of 9-% of the core vendors. Cisco is silent about the availability of the product. The product may not be needed ny the service p[roviders. Further more, the product may not brn IXCs and CLECs. The market which is looking to materuallise may never bear fruits. Such an announcement has been nade by CISCO to blunt Procket.
yikes_stripes
yikes_stripes
12/4/2012 | 11:17:50 PM
re: Source: Cisco's HFR Tips the Scales
Wrong as usual. The thing is pretty much as LR describes. It's a monster.
edgecore
edgecore
12/4/2012 | 11:17:50 PM
re: Source: Cisco's HFR Tips the Scales
Oh ya, the conspiracy theory!

Brutal post...I finally get to use the "ignore author feature".

Gea, can you please let him have it for me?

THX

EC
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