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Juniper Unveils 'Wireless Router'

CANNES, France -- 3GSM World Congress -- Juniper Networks Inc. (Nasdaq: JNPR) is using the yacht-laden 3GSM World Congress in Cannes as backdrop for the unveiling of its first joint development with Ericsson AB (Nasdaq: ERICY).

The end-product was at one stage being billed as a “wireless router” by the two companies. Now it’s been given a longer, if more down-to-earth, moniker: GPRS (general packet radio service) gateway service node, or GGSN.

Calling it a wireless router was a ruse to confuse the competition, according to Christopher Komatas, product marketing manager for Juniper’s mobile division. “It’s a simplistic way of describing a GGSN,” he says. “There’s nothing wireless about it, other than its application in a GPRS network.”

Komatas says the GGSN will play a key role in helping service providers migrate to all-IP mobile networks. It connects data sent over the mobile core network to the Internet and corporate intranets. Initially, it can be used to help route email to users’ handsets, but in the long term it could also support audio and video streaming.

Carriers are looking to snazzy, new, handset data applications to give themselves a kick in the ARPU (average revenue generated per user). Carriers will make up declines in voice revenue from data downloads, so the theory goes, although this is yet to be proved – at least in Europe or the U.S. First-generation WAP (wireless application protocol) applications failed to set the world alight.

Juniper is working with Ericsson to proselytize mobile IP, through the snappily named Ericsson Juniper Mobile IP joint venture, supplying hardware when the telecom equipment vendor builds out so-called “2.5G” and “3G” networks for operators (the G stands for generation). The GPRS gateway supports GPRS (2.5G) as well as UMTS (universal mobile telecommunications system, 3G) networks, according to Juniper.

Support for present and future versions of IP is a key aspect of the GGSN, according to Juniper’s Komatas. “All future mobile applications are being adapted to use IP,” he says.

GGSN supports Ipv4 and the much talked about IPv6. This version of the Internet protocol has been around for ages but has failed to gain widespread acceptance in fixed networks. However, its global addressing system is now seen as important for mobile networks – possibly supporting smoother roaming among international networks, better multimedia support, and the ability to use voice-over-IP technology for phone calls.

“Most carriers know they need to move to IPv6,” says Komatas. Support for the protocol is actually mandated under release five of standards coming out of the 3rd Generation Partnership Project (3GPP), a group of the leading standards authorities in the wireless field. Networks built to those guidelines could be years away, as Juniper admits. Nevertheless, asserts Komatas, carriers will start experimenting with IPv6 next year.

However, carriers are likely to experiment with IPv6, GPRS, UMTS, and other new-fangled network technology in their major markets – that is, in big cities. There are still going to be large patches of older technology infrastructure in less profitable areas. It’s worth noting that companies such as AT&T Wireless, Cingular Wireless, and Verizon Communications Inc. (NYSE: VZ) are all launching intermediate network technologies in parts of the U.S. or on a market-by-market basis. So, just as users can still find themselves roaming on analog networks, it is likely that all the benefits of IPv6 networks will not be felt for a long time.

Enterprises are expected to be among the major customers for wireless data applications. Juniper reckons that it will help carriers snare the corporate clients through GGSN’s support of Layers 2 and 3 mobile VPNs and IPsec, along with the ability to separate enterprise traffic from consumer downloads. With the direct connection between mobile devices and corporate intranets over IP rendering some form of mobile security very necessary for corporate clients, wireless VPNs are becoming a hot topic in the industry.

On the hardware side, the GGSN is based around Juniper’s M series of routers; Komatas expects the M20 and M40e to be the most common platforms. It’s bundled with software that handles control signaling and packet forwarding.

Cisco Systems Inc. (Nasdaq: CSCO) claims to have shipped several hundred GGSNs. Larry Lang, general manager and vice president of Cisco’s mobile wireless group says Juniper is "late to market but they’re here now... It's also confusing, because Ericsson already has a GGSN.”

Nokia Corp. (NYSE: NOK) claimed in 2000 to have created the first end-to-end GPRS network that supported IPv6.

— Dan Jones, Senior Editor, Unstrung
http://www.unstrung.com
lion.wang 12/4/2012 | 10:53:42 PM
re: Juniper Unveils 'Wireless Router' Ericsson and Nokia developed GGSN based on router,
Nortel and Lucent developed GGSN based on IP service switch,
what's the difference? which is better?
who can tell me , thanks.
MaxQoS 12/4/2012 | 10:54:18 PM
re: Juniper Unveils 'Wireless Router' Billy et al,

But what if the carrier could offer you ubiqitous access with speeds similar to DSL,, low latency, vehicular speed mobility, and flat rate pricing in the $49-50 month range? What if your kid could play online games in the back seat as you trip to grandma's house? What killer apps are enabled by having access to the kind of bandwidth that you get on your DSL line?

What would it take to get you to bite on this type of service?



jnj 12/4/2012 | 10:54:43 PM
re: Juniper Unveils 'Wireless Router' Martin Coopers' vision of wireless seems to be where we're heading. Check out arraycom.com lots of good insites. j
billyjoebob 12/4/2012 | 10:54:45 PM
re: Juniper Unveils 'Wireless Router' It is unlikely that the three Gs will drive a mobile business case. Girls are attractive (thank the Lord) for the at home user because he/she remain unseen. Sitting in a train oogling would be akin to reading Hustler (US porn mag for Non-US readers) and unlikely. Gambling - though appealing is not a large percentage of the population - recent reports on declining revenues of the major gambling center of Las Vegas and Atlantic City state that indian reservation casinos are pulling their customer base away - hence a fixed demand for gambling. Gaming - real time may be attractive, but it remains to be seen if PC gamers are willing to live with very low bandwidth for their high bandwidth games.

Enterprise's may enable some wireless for key executives but not to the general population of the company - look at 802.11 in enterprise networks - limited access to the senior management and key people. Road warriors may have a market for airports and public places but again the question is if the population of these high demand users is sufficient to justify the investment.

Time will tell - but this may be the next .com bubble - everybody assumes it's the greatest thing since sliced bread - until they have to pay for it.
rjmcmahon 12/4/2012 | 10:54:54 PM
re: Juniper Unveils 'Wireless Router' Well, checking e-mail while driving can
kill you, I think :)
___________________

My thoughts as well ;-)

There seems to be few mobile activities where realtime unicast will drive a business case, the synergy between broadcast and advertising (demand creation) is tough to beat, while store and forward applications probably don't need mobile IP to meet their customer expectations (many argue that mobile IP is a poor technical solution anyway)

With that said, I'd pay for:

o Personal streaming audio, including the sharing of playlists, providing for ad free audio while in the car.

o Realtime visual graphics of road conditions helping determine the optimal path between me and the destination.

o Highspeed access while sipping coffee and enjoying a quality audio show at the local cafe.

o Highspeed access for the pocket PC acting as the travel guide when walking around Manhatten

o Connecting a laptop to a high speed network while on the train

o Connecting networks to high speed access when on the aircraft carrier (or other mobile cities)

And not to forget, access to trading when downhill skiing ;-)
sauron5 12/4/2012 | 10:54:56 PM
re: Juniper Unveils 'Wireless Router' Well, checking e-mail while driving can
kill you, I think :)
sauron5 12/4/2012 | 10:54:57 PM
re: Juniper Unveils 'Wireless Router' Nortel=Contivity and Shasta
yes they have two.
bobma46 12/4/2012 | 10:55:03 PM
re: Juniper Unveils 'Wireless Router' Nortel used to use the Contivity as a GGSN, now it is the Shasta platform. The Shasta also can be a PDSN in the CDMA environment.

The logic here is that the Shasta provides network-based IP Services in conjunction with the GGSN/PDSN capability.

I think that there is the potential for large vendors who have tweaked existing products to be GGSN/PDSNs to look at smaller vendors who are purpose-building boxes to have that functionality.

For example Cambia Networks and the others that have been mentioned.
melao 12/4/2012 | 10:55:08 PM
re: Juniper Unveils 'Wireless Router' "If handhelds/cell phones/mobiles have static IP why need land lines - Mobile could be the only communication device we will need - Interesting

How about the last mile ? could mobile Ip be the solution ?"

Bandwidth, i guess that-¦s the only reason to have land line, specially if you consider fiber to the home in the future. Am i wrong ?
techmedia 12/4/2012 | 10:55:09 PM
re: Juniper Unveils 'Wireless Router' There's a lot of talk that enterpises will drive mobile data revenue growth. But its seems there are some reasons why this may not be the case.

1. Typically enteprises require customized applications
2. Enterprises aren't likely to significantly increase their spending on mobility anytime soon

Rather consumers could be the key -- hence the 3G's are now said to be Girls, Gambling and Games

myresearch 12/4/2012 | 10:55:11 PM
re: Juniper Unveils 'Wireless Router' I know mobile IP is hot but what is the killer apps? Checking email while driving does not sound like a killer app:-)

Lets assume that 3G is available in your area, what will promote you to use the IP service? what price are you waiting to pay? Will you replace your DSL/Cable with 3G (but $$$ per kbps is quite high for 3G offering).

Just thinking aloud ...

MR
alcaseltzer 12/4/2012 | 10:55:12 PM
re: Juniper Unveils 'Wireless Router' How about the last mile ? could mobile Ip be the solution ?
Is mobile yet cheap enough to serve as universal lifeline access?

Can you get enough bandwidth out of your mobile to supplant cable modems and DSL?

Can you get enough b/w out of your fixed wireless to supplant cable modems and DSL?

(I think I know the answers to all three...)
tink 12/4/2012 | 10:55:12 PM
re: Juniper Unveils 'Wireless Router' is your cable satellite? or is there a wire to your house?
MaxQoS 12/4/2012 | 10:55:12 PM
re: Juniper Unveils 'Wireless Router' I thought Nortel's GGSN was Shasta too, but a well placed friend of mine at a cellular carrier said that they're using the Contivity VPN platform. I saw a high level drawing with a picture of the high end Contivity box labelled "GGSN".

Lucent is going to use the Spring Tide platform for its GGSN offering.

Belzebutt 12/4/2012 | 10:55:14 PM
re: Juniper Unveils 'Wireless Router' It seems like the big companies are jointly-developing or buying their GGSN technology.

Nokia=Amber
Ericsson=Juniper
Nortel=?
Lucent=?


Don't quote me on this but I think Nortel is using Shasta for these kinds of applications...
WolfLarsen 12/4/2012 | 10:55:16 PM
re: Juniper Unveils 'Wireless Router'

Why do you need a landline now?

I haven't had one in quite some time and many people I know haven't had one in a long time.

-home pc on cable modem
-all phone calls via mobile
-laptop mobile data connection via mobile phone (yes super slow, but works well enough for mapquest in car when lost)
-no telemarketters (they aren't allowed to call mobile phones)

4g 12/4/2012 | 10:55:18 PM
re: Juniper Unveils 'Wireless Router' Hello -

It seems like the big companies are jointly-developing or buying their GGSN technology.

Nokia=Amber
Ericsson=Juniper
Nortel=?
Lucent=?

What does this mean for GGSN startups like Megisto and Tahoe that have no partners?
Do they have a chance?
reality_break 12/4/2012 | 10:55:19 PM
re: Juniper Unveils 'Wireless Router' > Can anyone recommend any good white
> papers on mobile IP?

For a good book on the topic, check out http://www.phptr.com/solomon
xoip 12/4/2012 | 10:55:22 PM
re: Juniper Unveils 'Wireless Router' If handhelds/cell phones/mobiles have static IP why need land lines - Mobile could be the only communication device we will need - Interesting

How about the last mile ? could mobile Ip be the solution ?
WDMer 12/4/2012 | 10:55:23 PM
re: Juniper Unveils 'Wireless Router' Larry Lang(Cisco VP) is right. It is confusing..!!

Ericsson bought Torrent Networks for $450Millions for precisely the same reason. Torrent was merged and renamed as Ericsson IP Infrastrucure with
offices in Rockwell VA and Raleigh NC. What they
are going to do now???

Looks like another example of bad management at Ericsson to me..!
samTheFish 12/4/2012 | 10:55:25 PM
re: Juniper Unveils 'Wireless Router' >Why all the noise about IPv6 for 3G?
It's a mandated part of the standard.

>Is it just due to the number of IP addresses required for all the handsets?

That's the biggest reason. Since the handsets will have really unique addresses ( not behind some IPv4 NAT) you'll enable true end-to-end applications. You'll also get rid of the headache of trying to scrape up v4 addresses.

I don't know any good white papers on mobile IP.

SamTheFish
MP_UK 12/4/2012 | 10:55:27 PM
re: Juniper Unveils 'Wireless Router'
Can anyone recommend any good white papers on mobile IP?

Why all the noise about IPv6 for 3G? Is it just due to the number of IP addresses required for all the handsets?
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