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Bluetooth Stateside?

Between 27 million and 28 million devices with Bluetooth chips onboard will be shipped this year, according to Allied Business Intelligence (ABI). Around 19 million of those will be high-end mobile phones, the firm says.

So, with the Bluetooth Developers Conference in San Jose, Calif., in full swing, Unstrung has to ask: Why is there so little Bluetooth-compatible equipment available in the U.S.?

"Well, a lot of it is handsets, handsets, handsets," says Navin Sabharwal, director of residential and networking technologies at ABI. The firm expects that 59 million Bluetooth-enabled handsets will ship in 2003.

Most of the handsets currently available that support the short-range wireless connectivity standard are only available in Europe. Manufacturers such as Nokia Corp. (NYSE: NOK), Motorola Inc. (NYSE: MOT), and Sony Ericsson Mobile Communications all have Bluetooth-compatible GSM/GPRS models widely available in the Old World.

Nokia, the world's largest cellphone manufacturer, hasn't yet launched fancy new Bluetooth phones like the 7650 and 3650 in the U.S. and isn't likely to "refresh its product line" before 2003, notes Seamus McAteer, principal analyst at the Zelos Group LLC. Both McAteer and Sabharwal expect that Motorola will add more handsets next year. Sony Ericsson has phones like the T68i, but they "don't have much play in North America," Sabharwal says.

However, the adoption of Bluetooth in the U.S. may be spurred by more than just handsets, according to Sabharwal. He sees the cordless desktop computing model -- using Bluetooth to link keyboards and other peripherals -- as a "killer app" for the standard.

Microsoft Corp.'s (Nasdaq: MSFT) move to support Bluetooth in its XP desktop operating system opens the way for this market, making it easier to set up wireless connectivity on the desktop.

However, the 802.11 wireless LAN standard has really caught the imagination of laptop makers -- to the exclusion of Bluetooth, Sabharwal says. "Right now, they're primarily marketing 802.11," he comments. In fact, Sabharwal thinks one of the reasons the Bluetooth Special Interest Group (SIG) keeps delaying the introduction of the higher data-rate Bluetooth Radio 2 specification is because it does not want to tread on the toes of the 802.11 lobby (see Bluetooth 2 Postponed?).

However, the low-power Bluetooth specification is much better suited to battery-powered devices than is 802.11, which is really designed to work with mains-powered computers. Sabharwal expects the SIG to ratify a 2-Mbit/s enhanced rate extension to the existing Bluetooth spec in the second half of next year. This is necessary to keep manufacturers of devices like digital cameras happy: These vendors need faster data rates than the 1-Mbit/s or less that Bluetooth currently offers. However, their battery-powered devices can't cope with the power drain caused by the 11-Mbit/s 802.11 specification -- hence the call for a somewhat faster version of Bluetooth.

— Dan Jones, Senior Editor, Unstrung
http://www.unstrung.com
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w2forum 12/5/2012 | 12:19:30 AM
re: Bluetooth Stateside? I'm curious about one aspect of the "shipped devices" numbers. Customers seem to only buy 802.11b gear when that is exactly what they want, since it rarely comes bundled or integrated. However, Bluetooth in handsets is usually integrated. This raises the possibility that although customers "bought Bluetooth", they didn't know this, or it wasn't a selling feature.

Also - in North America, finding Bluetooth is a challenge and finding affordable Bluetooth is pretty much impossible. Local retailers in after-market phone accessories have heard of it, but either don't tend to carry it, or it is highly priced (headsets typically cost 6 times what I paid for my phone). Major carriers might have one or two phones with out of a lineup of a dozen, but they are typically the most expensive phones, running 3 or 4 times more than an average phone. This isn't due solely to Bluetooth, I think - it's just the Bluetooth is only provided in top-of-the-line phones, and dropped to save money in most of the rest of the line.

Meanwhile, if I want to get a mobile laptop connected, I can get a 802.11b card for less than half the price of a Bluetooth adaptor, and use it with hotspots provided by a cellular carrier.

I'm not trying to be down on Bluetooth, but the market reality here is not proving favourable for it. If the European Bluetooth market is taking off, more power to them. But in North America, I'm not going to hold my breath and turn blue.

http://www.w2forum.com/item2.p...
gigeguy 12/4/2012 | 9:12:12 PM
re: Bluetooth Stateside? VZW really has the most complete US mobile coverage, but just try to buy a bluetooth-enabled handset to use with their service. They are really behind the technology curve here. The combination of a bluetooth handset w/1xRTT, bluetooth cordless earphone/mic, and Palm Tungsten|T is all you would need for life on the road without wires or a laptop. VZW, get with the program!!!!!!
angelseye2000 12/4/2012 | 9:12:01 PM
re: Bluetooth Stateside? Bluetooth Mobile Phones

A Bluetooth phone can become your mobile communications centre, enabling you to wirelessly surf the web on you Bluetooth enabled PDA or laptop, or speak handsfree on the move with a Bluetooth headset.

Available Mobile Phones with Bluetooth:

Nokia 7650
Sometimes life is incredible, amazing, awe-inspiring. Sometimes it leaves you speechless. If you have something to say, even when you're speechless, share it with the new Nokia 7650.
http://www.blueunplugged.com/s...

Sony Ericsson T68i
Sony Ericsson release their first phone to use MMS (multimedia messaging), Bluetooth and GPRS combined, making it the most technically advanced phone today.
http://www.blueunplugged.com/s...

SonyEricsson T68 ranking No 1 spot at 'PC World Spotlight on Wireless Phones': Sony Ericsson T68
G㡠$200 (with service activation, as of 6/15/02)
G㡠GSM 900 MHz/1800 MHz/1900 MHz
G㡠3 ounces; 3.9 by 1.9 by 0.8 inches
G㡠7-hour talk time; 8 days standby
Inexpensive, compact phone packs joystick navigation button, color screen, bluetooth and world roaming. Available through AT&T Wireless, Cingular, and T-Mobile.
http://pcworld.shopping.yahoo....

Nokia 8910
The new Nokia 8910 is a rare combination of material beauty, design elegance, and impeccable features. Discover the phone that is as advanced as it is uncommon
http://www.blueunplugged.com/s...

Nokia 6310i
Nokia introduce the 6310i. Bluetooth and WAP functionality combine to make this the first tri-band version from Nokia.
http://www.blueunplugged.com/s...

Philips Fisio 820
Encapsulating the vast spectrum of technological developments witnessed within the industry over recent years, the R520 is the most advanced phone ever produced by Ericsson.
http://www.blueunplugged.com/s...

Ericsson R520m
A combination of the latest technologies and stylish design makes Fisio 820 one of the most advanced mobile phones on the market today
http://www.blueunplugged.com/s...

Ericsson T39m
The eagerly awaited Ericsson T39 encompasses Bluetooth ,GPRS, HSCSD and WAP, making it one of the most technically advanced phones available today.
http://www.blueunplugged.com/s...

Nokia 6310
The new Nokia 6310 gives you more freedom than ever before when it comes to connecting on the move, incorporating Bluetooth, GPRS, HSCSD and WAP.
http://www.blueunplugged.com/s...

Motorola TimePort 270c.
CDMA 900/1800, 2-Way Speaker Phone, Bluetooth, Voice Recorder, Voice Dialing, WAP 1.1, PIM, iTAP input, and much more...
http://www.4cellular.com/searc...

UPCOMING: New Mobile Phone Devices with Bluetooth

Sony Ericsson P800
The P800 is the most advanced mobile phone from Sony Ericsson. It has an integrated digital camera, a colour screen and a wide range of imaging features.
http://www.blueunplugged.com/s...
http://mobile.burn.com/review....

Motorola Paragon II: Symbian OS Rival to the Sony Ericsson P800 it is named Paragon II.
http://mobile.burn.com/news.js...

Motorola A820 (A830) dual 2G/3G Handset
Torn between needing a mobile office and wanting a high-tech toy? There's no need to choose with the Motorola A820. For fast-paced business trips around the globe, the Motorola A820 provides a multi-functional voice/data solution.
http://www.blueunplugged.com/s...
http://www.infoworld.com/artic...

Siemens 3G Handset, the U10 (see Motorola A830)
http://mobile.burn.com/review....

Siemens S55
The Siemens S55 phone is their first colour screen phone with Bluetooth, MMS,GPRS and J2ME.
http://www.blueunplugged.com/s...
Siemens S55/S56/S57 Handset
http://mobile.burn.com/review....

Siemens SL55 Smartphone (based on Symbian Nokia Series 60 platform)
http://mobile.burn.com/news.js...
http://www.siemensinfo.de/gall...

Nokia 3650
The exciting new Nokia 3650 is a complete tool for capturing and sharing experiences!
http://www.blueunplugged.com/s...
Nokia's 7650's powerful little brother, the 3650
http://mobile.burn.com/review....

Nokia 8910i Handset
http://mobile.burn.com/review....

Nokia's N-Gage Mobile Phone/Game Device
http://mobile.burn.com/news.js...

Nokia 6650 3G Handset
Featuring a built-in still/video camera, a 4096-color display, and MMS capability for sending and receiving clips, the Nokia 6650 phone lets you share your world like never before
http://www.blueunplugged.com/s...
http://mobile.burn.com/review....

IBM/CDL Paron 'secure PDA' which combines the functions of a PDA, Bluetooth wireless access, cellular telephone, and biometric fingerprint recognition, along with a security-oriented hardware/software architecture.
http://www.linuxdevices.com/ar...

(list not pretending to be complete)

A search on the official Bluetooth Qualified Product List concerning (Product Category) Mobile phones shows a list of 29 qualified mobile phone products:
http://qualweb.opengroup.org/T...

A BQP Mobile phone accessory search shows us 63 qualified products:
http://qualweb.opengroup.org/T...

Came across the following Qualcomm Bluetooth article at theregister.com....

Qualcomm monoculture is 'killing American wireless': ".....The lack of Bluetooth in North America mobile phones is not due to any problems with the technology, it's due to Qualcomm. (Fortunately, in the last month or two Qualcomm has apparently demonstrated in the lab a new chipset that supports 1X and Bluetooth...maybe in a year or so we might actually see a Bluetooth 1X phone on the market.)...."
http://www.theregister.co.uk/c...

Would it be that simple?. Maybe there are some points to find here but it's not a very balanced article imho. Qualcomm has teamed with Ericsson on Bluetooth a long time ago. They also have various CDMA-Bluetooth Solutions (MSM chips) and some new similar solutions have been added to there CDMA chip offerings recently.....
http://www.cdmatech.com/soluti...
http://www.cdmatech.com/search... (cdma website bluetooth search)

Like i said Qualcomm has come up with some interesting new CDMA chipsets which support Bluetooth.

QUALCOMMGăÍs WCDMA/GSM/GPRS Multimode Solution Features Integration of Advanced Multimedia Technologies and Position Location Capabilities
Gă÷ Single-Chip MSM6250 Solution Supports Video, Audio and Still-Image Encode/Decode; 2D/3D Graphics and JAVA Acceleration; Megapixel Camera Interface; Complete Bluetooth Baseband; and Assisted or Stand-Alone GPS Gă÷
http://www.cdmatech.com/press/...

QUALCOMM Announces WorldGăÍs First Bluetooth WCDMA (UMTS) and GSM Voice Calls
MSM6200 Single-Baseband Chip Integrates Bluetooth Technology with WCDMA and GSM Capabilities
http://www.qualcomm.com/press/...

QUALCOMM Announces On-Time Sampling of MSM6300 Single-Chip 3G Solution for CDMA2000/GSM/GPRS
- First True World-Phone Chipset Enables Global Roaming Across Wireless Networks -
http://mobile.burn.com/news.js...

BluetoothGńˇ Solutions
Newsflash - Microsoft Gives Bluetooth Momentum

QUALCOMM CDMA Technologies offers Bluetooth connectivity on most chipset solutions. Bluetooth is a short-range radio technology that provides a wireless link between mobile computers, mobile phones and other portable devices, as well as easy wireless connectivity to the Internet.

The advantages of integrating Bluetooth wireless connectivity technology with CDMA go beyond the convenience of eliminating cords. By combining the advanced multimedia capabilities of QCT chipsets and system software with Bluetooth's ability to link a wide variety of devices wirelessly, consumers will be offered advances in wireless communication and computing that could change the way we live-from paying for purchases to keeping up-to-date with today's news.

See a Bluetooth demonstration - (8.4MB MPG)

MSM3300
MSM5100
MSM5500
MSM6XXX Chipset Solution
SURF
Radio & Power

http://www.cdmatech.com/soluti...

I hope we will see some phone manufactures who will come with some interesting CDMA-Bluetooth Phone Devices.....it's about time!!!!!!!.

regards,

angel.


angelseye2000 12/4/2012 | 9:12:01 PM
re: Bluetooth Stateside? 802.11 expert on Bluetooth....

Glenn Fleishman is owner of the 802.11 website
http://80211b.weblogger.com/

He also says "Bluetooth and (not Versus) Wi-Fi"
http://80211b.weblogger.com/20...

Glenn Fleishman: Multi-Nodal Me
12/08/2002

I broke down and switched my cell phone service from Verizon to Cingular last week. Why? Many, many reasons, incuding rollover minutes (instead of expire-at-the-end-of-the-month minutes), support for the Sony Ericsson T68i phone (more on that in a second), and GSM/GPRS-based service. The new plan with more features, minutes, etc., will cost me substantiall less than my Verizon plan, too.

But here's where it gets interested. I signed up for just the $4/month Wireless Internet package which adds GSM service to my phone. The T68i handles Bluetooth, as does my iBook with the addition of a $50 D-Link USB adapter. Because Mac OS X 10.2 Jaguar handles Bluetooth with ease as another networking flavor, I can make data calls from my Mac over the phone.

True, it's at just 9600 bps -- I could pay a lot more for GPRS and get better downstream speeds -- but that's good enough for email and text Web access. The funny part is this: I'm in a hotel in Palo Alto right now avoiding their $2/call charges or whatever they charge (there's no card here at Rickey's, a Hyatt property explaining it, but I paid $2 per call from my Westin room last week in Santa Clara).

The chain of connections is: iBook -> Bluetooth adapter -> Bluetooth phone -> GSM network -> modem somewhere in a GSM equipment office (yes, an actual modem!) -> Earthlink network. In the case of GPRS, the cell company is the ISP, too; with GSM, you dial a modem by proxy. Whatever. It works, and, so far as I can tell, the time is coming out of my 3000 minute a month of weekend/evening time.

http://blog.glennf.com/gmblog/...

I say....hurt them in there pockets. People let's unite

;o)

lrmobile_castro 12/4/2012 | 9:12:00 PM
re: Bluetooth Stateside? The concept of switching service providers to get a bluetooth phone strikes me as somewhat warped.

I think i'd prefer verizon's higher data rates and strong coverage over GPRS with bluetooth any day. Moreover, I'd rather just have a dedicated pcmcia card for my laptop.

Sorry but i'll put service quality and performance over bluetooth any day. Bluetooth is a nice feature and i'll look forward to it in the future but it ranks far below service quality of the provider in my opinion. I won't be tossing my CDMA connection anytime soon unless the GPRS/GSM service is better than what i have. For now that is not the case.
joset01 12/4/2012 | 9:11:58 PM
re: Bluetooth Stateside? <snips list="" long="" of="" phones="">

So how many of those are available in the US? It ain't many of them.

DJ Unstrung</snips>
angelseye2000 12/4/2012 | 9:11:57 PM
re: Bluetooth Stateside? Some Bluetooth notes and/or facts.....

-Bluetooth has been overhyped in the past (sad enough) but there is much more realism these days.
-A lot of people still don't understand that Bluetooth and WiFi are 2 different technologies for different uses/needs.....
-There have been a lot of badly written articles (especially in the US) about Bluetooth. Some of these so-called tech writers didn't even saw the differences between wifi and bluetooth.....what to expect of readers who read them?
-Interoperability and costs have/are holding Bluetooth for mass appeal. Bluetooth chips are know offered for $10-$5 or less (see TI, Broadcom, CSR even talks about $3 soon).
-Operators still don't see the advantages of Bluetooth (few phones and/or expensive services). Some say it could have something to do with a certain profile of the BT spec.(!?)
-Bluetooth seems to be overshadowed by the success of WiFi. Some of the consequenses are that companies are using Wifi also for applications were it's not been developed for. Can you blame them?
-......

Bluetooth Wireless Technology to Add More Than $12 Billion in Operator Revenue Reports New Study
http://www.bluetooth.com/news/...

Bluetooth Realism, ins and outs, delays, uses, advantages, Bluetooth and 802.11 complimentary, differences....
http://www.hometoys.com/htinew...

BLUETOOTH ROUNDUP: Palm, Products, Reviews, Compatibility, Setups etc
http://discussion.brighthand.c...

-Bluetooth General Access Points
-Bluetooth Public Access Infrastructure
-Bluetooth Residential DSL ISDN Access Points
-Bluetooth Enterprise Access Infrastructure
-Medical Bluetooth Applications
-Online Retailers for Bluetooth
-Automotive Applications
-Bluetooth Mobile Phones
-Serial Port Adapters
-Cameras
-Bluetooth PC & PCMCIA Cards
-Compact Flash Cards
-PCs, Laptops & Notebooks
-Bluetooth Test Equipment
-Bluetooth Headsets & Handsfree
-Bluetooth PDA Applications & Accessories
-Bluetooth USB Dongles
-Industrial Bluetooth Applications
-Bluetooth Printers
-Combined Bluetooth & WLAN Products
-Innovative Products
-Location Based Products
-Bluetooth-GPS Solutions
-Bluetooth Printers, Mouse, Keyboard
-Bluetooth Wireless Game Solutions
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mb...
-Smoke-Control System
http://www.wirelessweek.com/in...
-CD-Quality Wireless Audio
http://www.extremetech.com/pri...
-Tracking, Tagging & Security; Distance-measurement and location-finding technology (If your child is wearing an equipped wristwatch for instance, you could be alerted if he or she walks off more than a present distance.)
http://www.wirelessweek.com/in...

Bluetooth and (not Versus) Wi-Fi (802.11)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mb...

BLUETOOTH-WIFI COEXISTENCE Solutions
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mb...
CSR/Intersil/SMART Modular Technologies with Bluetooth/802.11b mini-PCI standard form factor that can be integrated into notebooks, PDAs and other compact battery-dependent portable devices.
http://www.e-insite.net/eb-mag...
http://www.theinquirer.net/?ar...

BLUETOOTH OR WIFI? HOW ABOUT BOTH
http://hoovnews.hoovers.com/fp...

Blueunplugged.com is the worlds first website dedicated purely to the eTail of Bluetooth.
http://www.blueunplugged.com/

Over 800 Qualified Bluetooth Products
http://qualweb.opengroup.org/T...

WiFi is great for networking but is not really suitable for mobile use. The energy consumption of WiFi devices, even if they are wireless, limits them to fixed use: the energy required is too high to be provided by a lightweight, portable battery. The important fact to keep in mind is that, for a given technology over a given distance, consumption is related to band width. With the WiFi system, the band width is more than 10 times higher than that of Bluetooth (1MHz).

Moreover, contrary to what is sometimes written, WiFi is not a competing standard to Bluetooth. WiFi applications (wireless Ethernet) are very different to those of Bluetooth (wireless interoperability of mobile or domestic appliances) and are often complementary.

There will never be enough hotspots to approach the coverage of 3G.....
http://www.theregister.co.uk/c...

".....cellular works better than Wi-Fi when the user is walking down the street or riding in a car. Wi-Fi is also subject to obstruction by everything from chimneys to elevator shafts." from Gă Wi-FiGăÍ gives cell carriers static (WSJ)

This is where Bluetooth (besides the cable replacement and networking function at home/work) combined with cellular works comes in. Bluetooth is more mobile then WiFi. Like i said "Dual, multi modes or Software-defined radios (SDRs) who support various Wireless Technologies are favourable solutions for now and in the future imho." More WiFi/Bluetooth solutions appear overtime....
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mb...

Will Success Spoil 802.11/Wi-Fi?
http://80211b.weblogger.com/20...

802.11 wifi's real weakness is bandwidth - not its maximum capacity of 11Mbits/sec (really only 6Mbits/sec after protocol overhead is subtracted, which is still relatively high), but the limited amount of radio spectrum in which it operates. the system uses the 2.4GHz band, which in the United States has room for three separate non-overlapping 802.11b channels. some other countries have room for four, but the Wi-Fi standard is based on the FCC's restrictions, so they're also limited to three. So 802.11 potential stumbling block could be the limited number of channels available in the 2.4 GHz band used by WLANs. With only three channels available, WLANs in close proximity must share bandwidth, shrinking the available pipe for each user. (That could drive adoption of 802.11a also named as "WiFi5", a new wireless LAN technology that [has] eight channels and much faster speeds; 802.11a 5Ghz band products won't interfere with Bluetooth 2.5Ghz band products)
http://www.networkmagazine.com...

FCC to the rescue!?

December 11, 2002 -- FCC Begins Process to Increase Wi-Fi Frequencies
http://dc.internet.com/news/ar...

regards,

angel.










angelseye2000 12/4/2012 | 9:11:56 PM
re: Bluetooth Stateside? Bluetooth Stacks from Palm, Microsoft, Symbian, Linux and Apple
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mb...

Apple Desktop and Laptop with Bluetooth/Dell PDA with Bluetooth and WiFi
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mb...


angelseye2000 12/4/2012 | 9:11:56 PM
re: Bluetooth Stateside? And who are responseable for that?

I don't see many factors why Bluetooth isn't popular in the US in the article dan?

I've tried to name a few factors in one of my replies.

Time will tell.
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