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Ceyba Rattling in Ottawa

Ceyba Inc. has been forced to send a third of its workforce packing, but the company's not giving up on its future, though signs are clear it will be an uphill battle.

The next-generation, long-haul startup, once the toast of Ottawa's optical community with a record-breaking $93 million warchest, cut about 34 percent of its staff this week, leaving about 125 workers. While employees throughout the organization were affected, many jobs were cut in R&D, where the startup has most folk assigned.

The layoff is the second in Ceyba's short life, following a cut of 50 from its roster of 250 last July (see Startups Adjust to Long-Haul Reality).

Ceyba spokespeople say the cuts were made to douse cash burn and prepare for more funding. Ceyba plans its next round for the second half of 2003, though it won't disclose amounts or investors involved.

These days, another layoff on its own is hardly news -- hence, Light Reading's weekly Headcount roundup. But Ceyba's one of the leading startups in the long-haul space, along with Innovance Networks, PhotonEx Corp., and Xtera Communications Inc. Its progress -- or regress -- reflects the prospects of the whole market segment.

And prospects seem to have changed little recently. Carriers are still resistant to spending on long-haul networks, where pre-downturn overspeculation led to the current overcapacity (see What's Cookin' at Core Startups?).

Still, Ceyba insists interest hasn't burnt out. Two leading North American carriers have selected Ceyba for their networks, according to CEO Scott Marshall. While there's no prospect of live deployment, given the current capex cutback, he maintains that a range of long-haul routes -- more than 177 by his count -- will need revamping over the next several years.

"Given time, we'll be successful," he asserts.

There are negative and positive industry views on Ceyba's stance. According to Tom Nolle, president of consultancy CIMI Corp., startups like Ceyba face a problem because their products aim to replace existing infrastructure. The keyword is "replace": Carriers aren't biting right now.

Further, Nolle says the startups just aren't providing enough electrical on-ramps and interoperatility for their wares. And they're not addressing the metro space sufficiently, where core buildouts are likely to happen first. "If [the startups like Ceyba] can't get started with what carriers need in the near term, they probably won't live to see them in the long term," Nolle says.

Another analyst takes a more positive view of Ceyba. "I think of all the optical startups, Ceyba's got the best shot to succeed," says Mark Lutkowitz, principal of Telecom Pragmatics Inc., a consultancy. In his view, Ceyba's in better financial shape than its peers, though he admits that's not saying much. What's more, he thinks Ceyba's got a better handle on the needs of carriers, exhibited in its shying away from emphasis on 40-Gbit/s networking. Ceyba's technology, in his view, isn't too futuristic for customers to digest.

Ultimately, Lutkowitz says it may take a key partnership, in the form of an investment and subsequent acquisition, to bring that technology to market successfully. That's a pattern already set by Ciena Corp. (Nasdaq: CIEN) and WaveSmith Networks Inc. (see Ciena Nabs WaveSmith).

Ceyba's Marshall says that's a possibility. The market will have to get a bit better before that can happen, though. "The big guys are so busy trying to clean up their own finances... Someday, when we'd be accretive to them, it might make sense."



— Mary Jander, Senior Editor, Light Reading

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zettabit 12/5/2012 | 12:05:15 AM
re: Ceyba Rattling in Ottawa "Two leading North American carriers have selected Ceyba for their networks, according to CEO Scott Marshall"


Would that be AT&T? Nope.

Maybe Sprint? Nope.

Wiltel? Neither

Qwest? Not a chance

Level(3)? Call us when we've digested Genuity

360Networks? Yeah right!

Bell Canada? Like they need more capacity!

Broadwing? They probably prefer Corvis nowadays.


Scott, maybe you can post on this board your definition of "selected". Last I checked with Mr. Webster it meant "chosen from a number or group by fitness or preference".

I'm not quite sure that "selected" is the most judicious word to use.
ex-liter 12/5/2012 | 12:05:14 AM
re: Ceyba Rattling in Ottawa Haven't heard anything from their camp in quite a while. Are their doors still open?
joe_average 12/5/2012 | 12:05:13 AM
re: Ceyba Rattling in Ottawa Is it just me or does anyone else find that laying off a third of your workforce cannot possibly be good? The way the Ceyba statement reads, they are now guaranteed success. Going back to the subject line: Is this naive, stupid or lying?

Even a start-up like Luminous that has revenues isn't guaranteed to survive. How could Ceyba possibly feel this confident?
fiber_r_us 12/5/2012 | 12:05:13 AM
re: Ceyba Rattling in Ottawa "selected" is a weasel-word meaning:

- the vendor was "selected" to receive a copy of the carrier's now-defunct and useless RFP

- the vendor's response to said RFP was "selected" for "file 13"

- the carrier's employees "selectively" returns the vendor's numerous phone calls

- the vendor is in a "select" group that the carrier's employees visit (when "in the area", once or twice a year, since the carrier has nothing better to do and the employees need to look busy to avoid getting the ax in the next round)
dljvjbsl 12/5/2012 | 12:05:12 AM
re: Ceyba Rattling in Ottawa Ottawa in general has a good job market. However this is deceptive. The bulk of the employment in Ottawa is with the Canadian federal government. The govrnment hired a great many people in the last few years which has offset the decline in the high tech area. However obviously the skills that the government is looking for are nore centered on high tech and French-English bilingualism is a de facto and de jure requirement for employment there.

In the high tech area, Ottawa is dead. There have been layoffs at Ceyba, Mitel, March Networks, Mosaid, Breconridge and many other companies in the last few weeks. The only way to get a high tech job is to start a company and hire yourslef. There are a great many IT help companies in Ottawa now.

There is a small biotech group of companies in Ottawa which are doing better than the communication companies but not by much.

To put the high tech hiring picture in perspecitve for Ottawa, foreign students graduating from the local universities are returning to their home countries to get jobs. There are none in Ottawa
Soup 12/5/2012 | 12:05:12 AM
re: Ceyba Rattling in Ottawa Wow. After all the slamming of analysts lately, LR continues to use more blow-it-out-your-nose verbology from analysts. What a suprize, they found two opposing analyst views (about as hard as finding two oranges in Florida). Amazing.

Ceyba aimed at 40G, realized (perhaps too late) that such a technology was hype (at least this decade), then tried to back paddle into the crowded 10G pool. Will they make it? I don't know. But I'm not about to listen to analysts for the answer.

For once, I'd like to see predictions (and articles) based on real numbers rather than on some flunky's shadey OPINION. I double dog dare LR to omit all analyst commentary from their articles for one month. Then we'll see where the real meat is.

Soup.
stillatlu1 12/5/2012 | 12:05:12 AM
re: Ceyba Rattling in Ottawa it might not be great as anywhere; but a few are saying that it is better than Valley and Boston area; any insights?
single mode figure 12/5/2012 | 12:05:09 AM
re: Ceyba Rattling in Ottawa Can a Ceyba change it's stripes? Ask Mahdu, the long haul market is dead, look at Xtera, they have a distributed raman 10 gig product, that is viable from what my OSA members tell me, yet they are struggling to get there first deal.
Ott2003 12/5/2012 | 12:05:07 AM
re: Ceyba Rattling in Ottawa I could not resist myself to comment about that.

I recall one time so call high profile exact said
we have been selected in the short list...
and when he has been asked publically how did you find that??
He said there is Women from THE CARIER SIDE SHE SMILED TO ME when i asked her that question....

This may an explination for the word selected

Another meaning for the word slected....

Exc. report to their employees... that he/she has good traction with cariers....WHRE ANY TIME HE ASKED THEM FOR DINNER THEY Accapt his invitation.....

Dont mention that the exce can spend easy $2000 to have good drink/food.

single mode figure 12/5/2012 | 12:05:07 AM
re: Ceyba Rattling in Ottawa Maybe their getting into cigar networks! I think Bell Canada has selected Ceybar-gar for their routes, word is that Xtera was in the running too, but a canadian startup hey, they need to think about the mum-land. That's the word.
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