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Kelsey Ziser 5/3/2016 | 2:37:23 PM
Re: use your words, people! I agree, Mitch, there's that fine line between assertive and aggressive behavior and both men and women have that switch where assertive crosses over into aggressive. I think we'd be having a different conversation if dos Santos had used those terms instead of resorting to name calling with the phrase "bitch switch."
Mitch Wagner 5/3/2016 | 1:16:14 PM
Re: use your words, people! Jeremy11x - He didn't say "some women" had a bitch switch. He said women had it. I read that as all women. 

I say it's a switch that both women and men possess. 
TeleWRTRLiz 5/3/2016 | 10:23:19 AM
Re: use your words, people! The "women are more sensitive" and "men don't let things bother them so much" is a stereoptype. It really depends on the person and the situation. Angela Merkel, Harriet Tubman, Margaret Thatcher, Martha Stewart and Marissa Mayer are/were pretty strong peeps in my mind, and there are men who are sensitive who perhaps do let things bother them. Think about Boehner crying during the Pope's speech for example. 
Jeremy11x 4/29/2016 | 5:20:49 PM
Re: use your words, people! RE: "Men often get away with it just as they get away with acting certain ways that a woman would get called out for."

Sarah, men do not "get away with it" more than women.  Only because there are more male leaders do you hear about it more.   On a proportional basis, it's closer to even.  Women are also much more sensitive to any confrontation and would be more likely to complain about that kind of treatment, whereas a male would not let it bother him so much.
Jeremy11x 4/29/2016 | 5:11:16 PM
Re: use your words, people! Mitch, you're right.. there are many men who would prefer to work with or for some women, for a variety of reasons.   I've worked for several different women that I'd be glad to work with again if given the opportunity.  Of course there are both good and bad men and women as leaders.   For anyone to deny that some women can have a 'bitch switch' is crazy though.
Jeremy11x 4/29/2016 | 5:06:09 PM
Re: use your words, people! Sarah, you're twisting his words.  He didn't call anyone a bitch.   You're also confusing an assertive woman with a bitch.  I don't know why you can't seem to differentiate them, they are quite different.   There are MANY, MANY respectable assertive women in the workplace who I would never consider "being a bitch".  But there are some, which might include you, who think the only way to get things done is by activating their own 'bitch switch'.
Sarah Thomas 4/29/2016 | 4:07:14 PM
Re: use your words, people! Ha, lovely imagery, Mitch! But I would agree -- treating people like individuals rather than genders helps and is much more accurate anyway.
Sarah Thomas 4/29/2016 | 4:05:01 PM
Re: use your words, people! Thanks for weighing in, Yui! I'm glad the Internet didn't let this CEO get away with his "bitch-switch" comment too much, but I agree it's unfortunate that it's still a common way to describe assertive women. Men often get away with it just as they get away with acting certain ways that a woman would get called out for. 
Mitch Wagner 4/29/2016 | 4:00:56 PM
Re: use your words, people! I remember talking with a man who'd rather work for women. He had an earthy observation about women being less likely to get into a swinging contest with a certain organ, because they do not possess it. 

I've worked for a lot of bosses over the years, and don't see any particular correlation between gender and overall quality. Worked for a couple of terrible women bosses, and a couple of great ones. Same for men. 
YuiLNamiki 4/29/2016 | 3:58:30 PM
Re: use your words, people! Sarah, I completely agree with you! It's unfortunate that men can "get away" with using derogatory terms while women are striving for equality each and every day. I really enjoy working for and with female leaders, they have such unique perspectives and I have so much respect for them. 
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