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5:00 AM No shock as House Intelligence Committee warns that Chinese companies should not be trusted

US vs Huawei/ZTE: The Verdict

Ray Le Maistre
10/8/2012
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5:00 AM -- The U.S. House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence has decided that Chinese telecom equipment vendors Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd. and ZTE Corp. (Shenzhen: 000063; Hong Kong: 0763) pose a security risk and that U.S. companies should not engage in business with them. (See More Chinese Whispers and Huawei, ZTE Probed by Intelligence Agency.)

That, reports Bloomberg, is the general conclusion of the Intelligence Committee following a probe that saw members of the investigating team visit China and representatives of both Huawei and ZTE give evidence to the Committee (testimony that included some ill-advised claims). (See Huawei, ZTE Get Grilled in US.)

The Committee's main concern, it would seem, is that it's not possible for Huawei and ZTE to operate without influence from the Chinese government, a claim that both vendors have always rejected and which ZTE has once again denied, reports Reuters.

The verdict should come as no surprise to anyone. The tone of the Committee's statements always suggested that the only thing in doubt was just how damning of the Chinese vendors the final conclusions would be.

That's not to say that the Committee's findings have no validity and, for sure, both Huawei and ZTE have been guilty over the years of having indulged in less than creditable business practices, including industrial espionage and bribery. To what extent those two companies engage in those practices any more than their counterparts is another issue altogether -- international business in any industry is far from squeaky clean.

Once the full report is released it'll be interesting to see the full details of the Committee's decision. What's immediately clear, though, is that this provides a greater opportunity for the Chinese vendors' rivals to win business in the critical U.S. market and that any engagement with Huawei and ZTE by U.S. companies hereon in is likely to be public relations suicide.

Of course, the fallout from the Committee's verdict could be far more wide-ranging. China's foreign ministry has already issued a statement about the verdict, urging the U.S. to set aside any prejudices when dealing with Huawei and ZTE, reports Reuters. It's hard to imagine that the Chinese government's reaction will begin and end with a statement.

— Ray Le Maistre, International Managing Editor, Light Reading

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Rupert_Baines
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Rupert_Baines,
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12/5/2012 | 5:19:37 PM
re: US vs Huawei/ZTE: The Verdict


The Economist had a very intersting piece on this over the summer.


 


They discuss a lot of the issues: Huawei's success, the very genuine concerns about security in general, how other countries are facing these issues.


They contrast the US approachj (a panel of politicians) with how UK Govt has invested & involved GCHQ in audits and diligence. 


They also made the point about complacency: merely because a product is US owned is no particular reason to trust it is secure (after all, how much of the technology used in Western Company X's product was developed in China anyway...?)


http://www.economist.com/node/...


That said, there are things Huawei & ZTE could and should do to improve clarity.


Maybe this move will help that - but I suspect the reality may make little difference to US Trade Policy.

paolo.franzoi
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paolo.franzoi,
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12/5/2012 | 5:19:36 PM
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The bigger issue for Huawei is 60 minutes which did a piece on them last night (but not including ZTE).  I would say the chances of the American Public not being highly suspicious of Huawei after that report are slim and none (and slim just left).  


One of the very interesting bits came to the end when 60 minutes told folks that basically all the comm gear we buy (outside of Cisco) is foreign owned.  Of course that is not true, but Cisco is the only major American supplier out there.  


seven


 

paolo.franzoi
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paolo.franzoi,
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12/5/2012 | 5:19:35 PM
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Rgru,


None of those companies are $20B+ like Cisco, Alcatel, Erriccson, NSN, Huawei and ZTE.  The whole point is that the US companies that you listed there are Tier 2 and Tier 3 players.  There are no Tier 1 Telco Equipment Manufacturers left in the US, as Cisco in many ways is more of an Enterprise company.  The only one that the US really had was Lucent but that died long ago.


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non_linear
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12/5/2012 | 5:19:35 PM
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What about HP's H3C unit? They operate as a completely independent company in China, where HP essentially acts as a reseller (with limited influence on features and roadmap) of H3C gear Rest of World?  Seems to me that this sort of "ruling" should apply to them too, no?

Chhilar
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12/5/2012 | 5:19:35 PM
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That is extremely inaccurate regarding the origin of telecomm equipment.  Ciena, Infinera, Tellabs, Adtran, JDSU, Oclaro and others...  There are many American telecomm equipment and component companies.

Soupafly
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12/5/2012 | 5:19:34 PM
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The leading headline is questionable journalism...imho. Its fair to say that LR & its parent company have commercial revenues and concerns to consider, so I understand that.


However, certain lines & journalistic integrity will always remain important.


This topic is going to rumble on.


The article alludes that the UK approach is better than the US. Am not sure I agree. Whilst its true that the UK process is arguably more transparent, I don't assume that the US process is wrong and baseless, just because they have not published their sources & rationale. There may be reasons that we are not aware of, as to why they have done that.


I do think that Huawei's top team including Ren got complacent & arrogant in regards to the US and breaking into the NA marketplace. They have fallen for too many fast talking texans and hustlers instead of paying careful attention to the environment & basics. ZTE are relatively inconsequential outside handsets and have immature tech, so not really worth commenting on - in detail. The alliance with Cisco in china is a counter-tactical play against Huawei, based on the frenemy principle, amongst others.


NA is strategically important on multiple levels, so whilst this will lead to another rounds of strategic reviews, the NA market is a no retreat, no surrender territory. AL, Ericsson, Cisco, Ciena, HP, Apple, IBM - all the big global players are there and that is something that cannot be understated.


Will they break through? No question. Yes.


Only 1 US carrier needs to break & be seduced by free or very cheap tech that is world class (and there R&D has done an amazing job on the tech!) and the floodgates will open. If 1 major operator gains a strategic cost advantage that will cross contaminate the balance sheet for all & lead to price war.


Thats what has happened in the EU market place and numerous others. The NA market is in no way special, in that regard.

sam masud
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12/5/2012 | 5:19:34 PM
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Saw the 60 Minutes "report" last evening--it was hilarious, but not in a light, funny way. 

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12/5/2012 | 5:19:33 PM
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no doubt the verdict is highly political and way too influenced from lobbyists. Nevertheless is good for US interests. I wish the europeans could have the courage to do something similar rather than watching Huawei (mainly) and ZTE reaping one after the other the deals through price damping & other obviously illegal practices. They could have possibly saved some major tech firms (and many thousand jobs) from going under.

Rupert_Baines
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12/5/2012 | 5:19:32 PM
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I'm not sure that protectionism is ever a good way to save jobs. Trying to use laws to keep out technology, to try to protect uncompetetive domestic amnufacturers is not usually recommended...


Indeed, in contradiction to your point, it is Europe that has accepted the challenge from Huawei & ZTE, with European operators buying from them.


But looking at the Tier 1 OEMs (Ericsson, Huawei, NSN, ALU, ZTE - and sort of Cisco) it does not seem to have hurt European business.


So what exactly is it that Europe should listen too?

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12/5/2012 | 5:19:30 PM
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I agree seven.


 


I think the US Govt. is finally waking up to the fact that there is no big US supplier in a key strategic industry.  It's clearly a problem. 


People here talk about protectionism, it's not about that so much.  It's really about the ability of a foreign government to essentially turn off or disrupt the communications infrastructure of the United States.  In any war, the very first thing that's targeted is the communications infrastructure. 


And BTW, the US is not alone here, the Germans came to the same conclusion.


http://www.lightreading.com/bl...


 


 


 

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