Light Reading

Dish's Wireless Plans Could Get 'Crippled'

Jeff Baumgartner
LR Cable News Analysis
Jeff Baumgartner
11/21/2012
50%
50%

A new rule circulating at the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) will reportedly allow Dish Network LLC (Nasdaq: DISH) to use its spectrum for terrestrial-only services, but the satellite TV giant is fuming that the proposal could "cripple" its wireless ambitions. (See Spectrum Ruling Could Prove Risky for Dish .)

The FCC is considering new rules that would let Dish use 40MHz of AWS-4 wireless spectrum without having to support its satellite-based access requirements. Dish is upset that the draft order would require Dish to disable 25 percent of its uplink spectrum and impair another 25 percent to accommodate adjacent, and currently unused, H-Block spectrum that Sprint Corp. (NYSE: S) is eyeing for its Long Term Evolution (LTE) networks.

"While the FCC would grant full terrestrial rights, its proposal to lower our power and emissions levels could cripple our ability to enter the business," Dish Executive VP and General Counsel R. Stanton Dodge said, in a statement.

Dish wants to use the spectrum to build out its own wireless network, a risky decision that would cost billions and, in Dish's assessment, also create "tens of thousands of jobs." Some analysts and observers see that as a bluff to help Dish boost the value of its holdings. While waiting for the FCC to act, Dish Chairman Charlie Ergen has outlined several other possible scenarios in which Dish would seek a wireless partner or sell off its holdings.

Dodge said the H-Block provision could "add years" to the process and cause Dish to mothball some important elements, including radio designs and the build of the network itself, until the interference issues can be sorted out.

The FCC has not publicly revealed any details of its purported proposal and was not immediately available for comment on Wednesday morning. A vote is not expected until after the Thanksgiving holiday weekend.

Why this matters
A ruling that limits Dish's use of the spectrum will almost certainly spell the end for its already seemingly doomed idea of building its own wireless network.

That would open the spectrum up to an outright sale, though the value of those holdings might decrease in the wake of a ruling that impairs their use. The ruling might also cause Dish to get more aggressive about finding a partnership.

But the proposal is not set in stone, and the Dish lobby is out to tilt things in its favor before it's too late. "We stand ready to work with the full Commission on final rules that put the full AWS-4 spectrum to work for America and that advance the future potential of the H Block," Dodge added, with a bit of patriotic flair.

For more





— Jeff Baumgartner, Site Editor, Light Reading Cable



(9)  | 
Comment  | 
Print  | 
Newest First  |  Oldest First  |  Threaded View
Jeff Baumgartner
50%
50%
Jeff Baumgartner,
User Rank: Light Beer
12/5/2012 | 5:17:20 PM
re: Dish's Wireless Plans Could Get 'Crippled'


At first i thought this proposed ruling would simply give Ergen his out card for a sale, which seemed to be the *real* plan all along, but the way Dish explains how this could impair its holdings, this could put a damper on the value of that spectrum perceived or otherwise and damage Dish's position at the negotiation table. JB

DISHTV4U
50%
50%
DISHTV4U,
User Rank: Light Beer
12/5/2012 | 5:17:18 PM
re: Dish's Wireless Plans Could Get 'Crippled'


U MAKE THE CASE MR. ERGAN ONLY WANTS TO SELL HIS SPECT. & NOW THAT THAT WOULD NOT RETURN THIS HUGE PROFIT U ENVISION . NO CHANGE OF OPINION OR SEEMING NO CHANGE IN YOUR VIEW OF HIS PLAN ? ? R U AN INDEPENDENT BLOG OR A VOICE 4 THE CABLE INTERESTS ? ?

DISHTV4U
50%
50%
DISHTV4U,
User Rank: Light Beer
12/5/2012 | 5:17:18 PM
re: Dish's Wireless Plans Could Get 'Crippled'


JEFF , IF U ONLY LOOK AT THE START OF DISH U WILL SEE THAT THOSE TWO WENT UP AGAINST GM , RCA & A HOST OF OTHERS TO CREATE DISH ! THIS WAS IN MY HUMBLE OPINION A MUCH LARGER GAMBLE THAN TO BUILD OUT THEIR OWN , OR MY PERSONAL HOPE , TO MERGE WITH ANOTHER TO GIVE SAT. A TRIPLE PLAY AS THE REAL COMPETITION , AT&T , VERIZON & COMCAST HAVE NOW , BUT WITH A COAST TO COAST REACH THAT NOBODY HAS ! THIS THREAT TO THE STATUS QUO SEEMS TO BE A LARGE PART OF THE DELAY BY THE POLITICO'S .

Jeff Baumgartner
50%
50%
Jeff Baumgartner,
User Rank: Light Beer
12/5/2012 | 5:17:18 PM
re: Dish's Wireless Plans Could Get 'Crippled'


TW Cable, Comcast and to a degree, Bright House, also spun a fairy tale about using their AWS spectrum holdings for a network buildout and it became obvious that the high costs of that idea took that idea  off the table pretty quick... and they ended up selling it at a handsome profit. They didn't break any FCC rules , but it turned out to be a profitible strategy.  And it turned  out Cox probably should've taken a similar approach from the get-go rather than trying to do it all on its own. I think Dish could learn from Cox's experieince and instead partner and/or sell rather than going it alone... it's  too expensive and risky to do that from scratch. And yes I do question the perceived value of their spectrum if the FCC rules hinder its effective  usage. JB

paolo.franzoi
50%
50%
paolo.franzoi,
User Rank: Light Beer
12/5/2012 | 5:17:17 PM
re: Dish's Wireless Plans Could Get 'Crippled'


Dish,


This is a technical bulletin board dealing with all sorts of communications topics.  It would be wonderful if you would do three things:


1 - Stop it with the all caps


2 - Write in complete sentences


3 - Stop using the shorthand and try English instead.


If you go back and look at other posts here you will find yourself dismissed if you choose to post in 133t.


seven


 

Jeff Baumgartner
50%
50%
Jeff Baumgartner,
User Rank: Light Beer
12/5/2012 | 5:17:17 PM
re: Dish's Wireless Plans Could Get 'Crippled'


Yes, i recall Charlie Ergen saying pretty much that on the earnings calls when questions about his wireless strategy and Dish's spectrum holdings came up on the calls. I agree that he's made some bold bets that have paid off (and some that didn't), but I still don't know if going it alone is the right move here, especially if these FCC rules affect the spectrum Dish has to play with. But it certainly would be exciting to see him try it. JB

paolo.franzoi
50%
50%
paolo.franzoi,
User Rank: Light Beer
12/5/2012 | 5:17:16 PM
re: Dish's Wireless Plans Could Get 'Crippled'


Dennis,


Is that a foot fetish reference?


:)


Happy Thanksgiving to everyone at LR but Phil.  The heck with Phil.


seven


 

shygye75
50%
50%
shygye75,
User Rank: Light Beer
12/5/2012 | 5:17:16 PM
re: Dish's Wireless Plans Could Get 'Crippled'


A lot of what Charlie Ergen says and does is interesting, in a Rex Ryan kind of way.

DISHTV4U
50%
50%
DISHTV4U,
User Rank: Light Beer
12/5/2012 | 5:17:15 PM
re: Dish's Wireless Plans Could Get 'Crippled'


I APOLIGIZE TO ALL WHO WERE BOTHERED BY MY USE OF CAPS ! NOT UPSET OR HOLLOWING ! !  JUST USING THE BEST SIZE FOR ME TO SEE WELL ON MY HP TOUCHSCREEN 42 IN. MONITOR . YOU MAY CHOOSE TO IGNORE MY MUSINGS , MY WIFE OF OVER 50 YEARS HAS BEEN DOING JUST THAT FOR DECADES. AGAIN SORRY . . . . JACK

Flash Poll
From The Founder
The Swedish vendor has undergone a significant transformation during the past few years, adjusting to the demands of next-generation communications companies.
LRTV Documentaries
The 3GPP's Road to 5G Standardization

4|17|15   |   4:43   |   (0) comments


Satoshi Nagata, chairman of the 3GPP's TSG-RAN group and a manager at NTT Docomo, explains the standardization process for 5G, as well as the biggest challenges and opportunities.
LRTV Documentaries
AlcaLu CTO Makes the Case for a New 5G Air Interface

4|16|15   |   3:54   |   (0) comments


Michael Peeters, CTO of wireless at Alcatel-Lucent, explains why 5G will require a new air interface to meet its diverse performance targets.
LRTV Documentaries
AlcaLu + Nokia: The New Uber-Vendor

4|15|15   |   2:42   |   (4) comments


Heavy Reading Senior Analyst Gabriel Brown discusses the technological and competitive opportunities and challenges if a merger between Alcatel-Lucent and Nokia comes to pass.
LRTV Huawei Video Resource Center
Huawei's Data Center Power Play

4|15|15   |   6:22   |   (0) comments


Huawei has developed industry-leading energy efficiency capabilities for its indoor and outdoor data center solutions, explains Dr. Fang Liangzhou, vice president of Huawei's Network Energy product Line.
LRTV Huawei Video Resource Center
Huawei’s Routers, Switches Get the Green Mark

4|15|15   |   2:02   |   (0) comments


TUV Rheinland's Frank Dudley explains how Huawei's routers and switches have been successfully tested by energy efficiency experts and have gained Green Mark Certification.
LRTV Documentaries
A Finn, a Frenchman & a Guy From New Jersey Walk Into a Merger...

4|15|15   |   3:17   |   (0) comments


Stop us if you've heard this one before... Light Reading CEO Founder & CEO Steve Saunders weighs in on the technical and cultural implications of a Nokia and Alcatel-Lucent merger.
LRTV Huawei Video Resource Center
Accounting for Better Solutions

4|10|15   |   02:31   |   (1) comment


Murad Yousuf, CTO at Saudi Arabia's Ministry of Finance (Dept. of Zakat & Income Tax), talks about the benefits of deploying router technology from Huawei.
LRTV Huawei Video Resource Center
What's in Store for Huawei & DataCore?

4|10|15   |   05:44   |   (0) comments


At the CeBIT trade show in Hannover, Germany, George Teixeira, CEO of software-defined storage (SDS) specialist DataCore Software, explains why he has just signed a partnership agreement with Huawei Technologies.
LRTV Huawei Video Resource Center
Du Puts Its Faith in Huawei's Routers

4|9|15   |   3:42   |   (0) comments


Adnan Masood, director of Enterprise MS Solutions Marketing at du, the United Arab Emirates (UAE) operator also known as Emirates Integrated Telecommunications Company, explains why his company chose to use Huawei's multifunctional AR routers as part of its managed enterprise services.
LRTV Huawei Video Resource Center
Huawei Gets Active in the Data Center

4|9|15   |   3:17   |   (0) comments


With enterprise users looking to maximize the use of their data center assets, Huawei’s Chief Architect & Technical Director of IT Data Center Solutions, Bruce Su, explains how the company's six-layer active-active data center solution is eradicating the need to deploy passive, redundant data center assets.
LRTV Huawei Video Resource Center
Blue Consult & Huawei for a Better Solution

4|8|15   |   4:01   |   (0) comments


Martin Rott, CEO, and Marc Metzler, head of sales virtualization, from Germany's Blue Consult discuss their collaboration with Huawei and TrendMicro to develop a secure, scalable IT platform that can meet the needs of the most demanding enterprise users.
LRTV Huawei Video Resource Center
Beach Petroleum on eLTE & Mining

4|8|15   |   3:09   |   (0) comments


Network systems integrator Jeremy Hamlyn explains how Huawei's secure packet-based trunking communications system, eLTE, can help remote communities and companies in the mining, oil and gas sectors, deploy efficient communications networks that are perfect for video and data as well as voice.
Upcoming Live Events
May 5, 2015, Hyatt McCormick Place, Chicago, IL
May 6, 2015, Georgia World Congress, Atlanta, GA
May 12, 2015, Grand Hyatt, Denver, CO
May 13-14, 2015, The Westin Peachtree, Atlanta, GA
June 8, 2015, Chicago, IL
June 9-10, 2015, Chicago, IL
June 9, 2015, Chicago, IL
June 10, 2015, Chicago, IL
September 29-30, 2015, The Westin Grand Müchen, Munich, Germany
November 11-12, 2015, The Westin Peachtree Plaza, Atlanta, GA
All Upcoming Live Events
Infographics
Network Instruments, a JDSU division, shares results from its 2015 State of the Network, a global survey on security.
Hot Topics
Verizon Scores New OTT Content Deals
Mari Silbey, Independent Technology Editor, 4/16/2015
Can WiFi Calling Find Its Voice?
Iain Morris, News Editor, 4/13/2015
Senator Proposes New 'Title X' for Net Neutrality
Carol Wilson, Editor-at-large, 4/13/2015
Nokia, Alcatel-Lucent in Merger Talks
Iain Morris, News Editor, 4/14/2015
Nokia & Alcatel-Lucent: What's Going On?
Ray Le Maistre, Editor-in-chief, 4/15/2015
Like Us on Facebook
Twitter Feed
Webinar Archive
BETWEEN THE CEOs - Executive Interviews
Data Center Interconnect, or DCI, is one of the hottest sectors in telecom currently. Since coming back to Light Reading last year, prodigal-son style, I've ...
LR CEO and Founder Steve Saunders sits down with the head of Qosmos to talk about the changing state of the art in deep packet inspection technology, including its role in SDN and NFV architectures.