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kq4ym
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12/11/2017 | 1:00:38 PM
Re: Don't worry there won't be a return to the dark ages.
While there are good and bad arguments on both sides of any issue, including net neutrality, it's usually not easy to predict just what will happen in the future. Either way the decisions play out, the public and providers will surely find ways to protect and further their interests. The only thing we might safely predict is change will happen no matter what over time.
Joe Stanganelli
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11/30/2017 | 11:00:17 PM
Re: 5G is a Game Changer
> The FTC lacks rulemaking authority

Doesn't matter. Like any federal agency, they have Chevron deference, and you'd be surprised how broad the term "deceptive and unfair trade practice" can be.

> over-extended and under-funded

BECAUSE their jurisdiction is so broad and powerful. You could make this argument of the FTC with 100x their budget and their staff because they have so much enforcement authority.

> currently in court against AT&T, who is trying to ensure the FTC DOESN'T have authority over ISPs

Good luck to AT&T on that.
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11/30/2017 | 11:04:10 AM
Re: 5G is a Game Changer
KB,

 

I asked for a Tier 1:  AT&T, Verizon, Comcast, Charter, TWC.....

Not some little company.  All the complaints here is that the large providers will screw the consumer.  I ask for history around that nobody with say less than 5M customers.  Are the small providers potentially a problem, yes.  But you don't call them out.  You call out the big boys.

Now, that same situation existed in South Dakota during both the 2nd Bush and Obama administrations.  And that is NOT a problem of Net Neutrality.  That is a problem of Universal Access.

Net Neutrality - All bits are created equal.

Universal Access - Everyone should have the same Access.

Net Neutrality applies to 56K modem customers.  Title II as implemented does not mandate the creation of a broadband Carrier of Last Resort nor a mandate to have a network available at a reasonable cost.  If you want Universal Access, that is a different fight in the Congress and FCC.

I want to point out that let us say that Comcast connected all of its Internet Customers peered  through a single T-1 that it could still meet the rules of Title II.  Nobody would have any reasonable service, but as long as it didn't do anything it is completely within its rights.

 

seven

 

 
Duh!
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11/29/2017 | 6:25:16 PM
Re: 5G is a Game Changer
Verizon announced their fixed 5G launch after the markets closed today, with some of the details. Dan just put up a story. It does challenge some of my assumptions.
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11/29/2017 | 5:56:43 PM
Re: 5G is a Game Changer
"The low-e glass problem may be a show-stopper, since the plan was to get in through the window panes.  Folks at Verizon Labs are obsessed with it. Nokia has been prototyping two-part AUs that fit on either side of a window. Obviously a kludge, and the outdoor piece can trigger an obnoxious landlord."

What ever happened with all the hype surrounding Starry? Did they ever materialize a product that worked any better?
KBode
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11/29/2017 | 5:45:05 PM
Re: 5G is a Game Changer
There's countless examples of ISPs, both before and after 2015, abusing a lack of competition (net neutrality is just a symptom of that disorder), especially on the privacy front, so I leave that for you to Google on your time. 

"That is why I contend even talking about Net Neutrality is a waste of time.  It might not be in the future, but at the same time we don't build out network.  That is the priority to me...100Mb/s access to every residence and business in the US by 2020."

That's driven by either competition or competent regulatory policy. Not sure if you've driven through, say, South Dakota lately? Most users have the choice of an apatheic, upgrade-phobic, debt-ridden telco like Frontier, or a cable company with worse customer satisfaction ratings than the IRS. And on the federal regulatory policy front, well, Trump.

And while wireless will bring some relief, AT&T/Verizon's domination of the backhaul/BDS market, the same rural ROI problems, and its high cost prevent it from being a real fixed-line alternative anytime soon.

Again, the answer to all of this isn't to gut some modest consumer protections or, as Ajit Pai is doing, downgrade the definition of broadband so that we can collectively pretend these problems don't exist. 
KBode
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11/29/2017 | 5:39:09 PM
Re: 5G is a Game Changer
"The FTC has concurrent, far less refutable, and FAR broader jurisdiction when it comes to anything even remotely resembling unfair competition."

The FTC lacks rulemaking authority, is over-extended and under-funded, can only act after abuses have happened (often to the point of high comedy) and is currently in court against AT&T, who is trying to ensure the FTC DOESN'T have authority over ISPs, so no. Check out this from former FCC boss Tom Wheeler: 

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170207/08092736653/tom-wheeler-trump-gop-plan-to-modernize-fcc-fraud.shtml

Several FTC Commissioners have been saying the same thing.

"Moreover, Congress can specifically legislate in this area (which Pai has urged to have happen)."

Congress can't legislate its way out of a paper bag. And when it does these days, it's usually to find a way to screw consumers, not help them. Any chance of them passing a net neutrality law without massive intentional loopholes is extremely unlikely.
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11/29/2017 | 1:03:51 PM
Re: 5G is a Game Changer
Same as it ever was, Joe.

 

You can't mess with the laws of physics!
Joe Stanganelli
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11/28/2017 | 10:29:20 PM
Re: 5G is a Game Changer
@Dan: Or, for that matter, certain urban buildings using particular types of glass or other building materials, as I recall... How's that shaping up?
Joe Stanganelli
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11/28/2017 | 10:27:14 PM
Re: 5G is a Game Changer
@KBode: All of that assumes that the only way for the government to control net neutrality is through the FCC and existing FCC regulatory schemes. That's not true. The FTC has concurrent, far less refutable, and FAR broader jurisdiction when it comes to anything even remotely resembling unfair competition. Moreover, Congress can specifically legislate in this area (which Pai has urged to have happen).
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