I suppose China will next announce its study on the EU's human rights violations? Pot, meet kettle.
The Chinese government is keeping the yuan artificially low in order to keep its exports cheap. This gives Huawei an unfair advantage in pricing outside of the country, wouldn't you say?
It seems that you are at least admitting everyone is guilty, including Huawei?
A study by China’s Ministry of Commerce alleged that the European Union (EU) and various member states have been subsidising leading telecoms vendors with billions of Euros in recent years, reports the Wall Street Journal. The Chinese government sees the support for Europe’s vendors as a breach of World Trade Organisation (WTO) rules, and could use the study as part of its response to the EU’s own allegations of unfair subsidies in China. An EU document circulated earlier this month among member states raised concerns over the huge credit lines that vendors such as Huawei and ZTE receive from China’s state-owned banks which enable them to undercut European vendors, it was reported.
For its part, the Chinese study found the EU and a number of member states delivered subsidies through the award of R&D funds as well as export credits and loans. The support from the EU’s R&D funds to Europe’s three largest telecoms vendors (Alcatel-Lucent, Ericsson and Nokia Siemens Networks) totalled EUR9.1 billion between 2007 and 2013, it said. Plus, export credit agencies in Sweden, Finland and France have offered to guarantee more than EUR25 billion of loans on non-commercial terms for telecom network-related projects over the last five years, it argues. The European Investment Bank also awarded more than EUR1.45 billion in loans on non-commercial terms to three major unnamed European telecom-equipment makers too, said the study, while Ericsson and NSN allegedly received subsidies from individual member states.
"in the end seven wins an one point: Huawei, show us the money: if you have nothing to hide, then quit hiding, get a big 4 audit and release the numbers. if not, all your arguments are moot."
You meanlike how Enron and the likes "show their numbers" and backed by the "ethical big 4"? ROFL
BTW, Huawei is a private company and they do not need to show anything. Saying that, they are showing their ability to compete at the world stage.
you guys keep wasting out time pointing out that all gov'ts 'support' business. true, but to what end and on what scale? comparing what Unc Sam does for CSCO to what the PLA does for Huawei is just silly. china soes not want to develop industry, they want it right now, and they are creating real dislocation through unethical behaviour to do so. in the long run, china's SOE model will fail just as certainly as Japan and Europe's similar anti-competitive, anti-small business models have failed. the US is headed down the same path and it will fail as well, but we are still a long way from the EU or the PLA.
in the end seven wins an one point: Huawei, show us the money: if you have nothing to hide, then quit hiding, get a big 4 audit and release the numbers. if not, all your arguments are moot.
Be fair to all game players, give opportunity to them to show if they are trustable and good players.
Business and security are two different thing, mixing them together is not a good idea.
which govenment does not support its country's company to do business with others?
USA goverment has not supported Boing to sail its products to China?
French government not support Airbus to do business with China?
USA goverment not support Microsoft , Cisco, IBM Oracle to do business with China? is there much voice of politic arising from those business?
that is just business. USA and China should good be friends more than ...although there are a lot difference between two. the originity is rooted from different culture. just like the world is colorful.
there are more common issues which the whole human being are facing.let's think more about those...
Okay...then have your company post all its financial and audited records back to the beginning of the company. Other than that we all have to rely on researchers (and Heavy Reading is this site's research arm) and government investigations (see the EU).
As to what the American government should do is tax all imports from China until it floats its currency. Let's say at 100% escalating at 100% per month until the currency is floated.
I work in the Spam Filtering Space as a vendor which is a Service Provider (aka we do SaaS). I don't compete with Huawei....should I post the stats of the mail we get from China as attacks (and Russia as well)?
Just FYI, the MITI has created separate rules for companies when they are competing against native Chinese Manufacturers effectively. Would you like to know the timestamp on that (let's call it 1997 and the issue was V5.2 where external products had to pass tests but internal ones did not). So - another loss of the truth right there. I suspect you are unaware of these events, but they did happen.
Finally, China and the US are at economic war. I hope to heck that my government is trying to crater the Chinese infrastructure and cause that country to go broke. China is certainly trying to do this. I don't get mad at governments for doing what they do, but why should I help them by buying equipment from the enemy and China is the enemy.
I agree Alexei. There is no point in accusing Huawei of getting government support. The world already does business with the Chinese government in its present form. So whats the point whether Huawei is government backed, government funded or a 100% government-owned company as long as it plays by the rules wherever it operates.
It's no need to defend China, it can defend itself :)... I just try to dispel some unfair prejudices against my company.
The situation of China and India is clearly described in the book "The Rise of The Rest" by Fareed Zakharia, Indian journalist working in NY. US is stagnating and gradually loose its former influence in the world overflooded by green pieces of paper with president portraits. China and India go up rapidly. And some American guys are disturbed by that.
Many Indians work for Huawei in Bangalore :) Join us ;)
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